CLEO approval being dropped.

**SSDude** · 12-09-2011, 05:46 PM

News for all you gun nuts

CLEO Requirement to be Discontinued

For enthusiasts of NFA-controlled firearms (e.g., machine guns, short barrel rifles and shotguns, suppressors), the requirement to get the local chief of police or sheriff's approval on the required Form 1 or Form 4 has been a problem. Started at the inception of the National Firearms Act, the idea was to get the person in front of the chief or sheriff - who was expected to know the "problem children" in his or her jurisdiction - to keep wackos from getting these special weapons. In the 30s through the 70s, that was potentially appropriate: there was no national computer database available at all hours to get criminal histories.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/126...=bottom#bottom

**Wagonbacker9** · 12-09-2011, 06:08 PM

Interesting. I have thought about building a 300 Blackout/Whisper, at which point this may be worth doing.

**fivonut** · 12-09-2011, 10:42 PM

WI law still requires a letter of approval from your local CLEO for machine gun ownership. Will make life easier for SBR, SBS and Suppressor ownership!!

**Mudd Runner** · 12-10-2011, 06:49 AM

Looks like I may finally make my short barrel coach gun

**Crawlin** · 12-10-2011, 09:39 AM

still would rather do the trust way so I don't have to wait longer for the FBI database checkup. Seems that it cuts down about a month or two from the ar15 topics about it.

**Mudd Runner** · 12-11-2011, 07:45 AM

Ive thought about doing the trust im just not sure how to go about it.

**WI_Dave** · 12-11-2011, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Mudd Runner

Ive thought about doing the trust im just not sure how to go about it.

x2

**Crawlin** · 12-11-2011, 08:12 AM

I have an attorney that you can call and talk to about it, or email. It's not "my" attorney, just who I was recommended to talk to off of ar15.com in the Wisconsin section

The trusts are usually $600-700 if I remember right

**Reverend Cooper** · 12-11-2011, 05:22 PM

you will not get away from a cleo signing and or fingerprinting as well

**Russ Jerome** · 12-13-2011, 08:21 AM

I would love to legaly tincker with home made silencers, have made a few somewhat functional ones but always destroy them after testing just to be safe. I admit that now knowing I don't have anything laying around

they can use silencers legaly in other countries to hunt, be nice for squirrel hunting.

**TheRX7Project** · 12-13-2011, 08:48 AM

Been wanting to build my new AR into a suppressed SBR...

**WI_Dave** · 12-17-2011, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Reverend Cooper

you will not get away from a cleo signing and or fingerprinting as well

Even with a trust? I thought that was the whole reason to use a trust.

Anyone know someone who got Clarke to sign one? Can you go over him to the DOJ?

**Coops Brother** · 12-24-2011, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by WI_Dave

Even with a trust? I thought that was the whole reason to use a trust.

Anyone know someone who got Clarke to sign one? Can you go over him to the DOJ?

A trust does not need CLEO sign off, just prints. Also, WI law requires Class 3 Dealers to have a one time CLEO, one letter of authorization, one time is all the dealer needs. (The WI law appies to machine guns only.) My understanding is in Milw. Co. the CLEO is not giving letter to the dealers for machine gun transfers, meaning Class 3 dealers in Milw. Co. can't even get a machine gun transfered to them without the CLEO letter.

I will believe they dropped the CLEO signature when they send me the updated forms....

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