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    First 1/4 times for the 392 SRT Challenger

    http://www.streetfire.net/video/2011...ck_2089181.htm

    Not bad...SRT8 Challenger. 6.4 liter, 470hp engine w/ MDS. 4184lbs, 5speed auto. Bone stock.

    12.44 @ 110.7mph
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    Well the new 5.0 guys better watch out.

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    I have to say this is the first Dodge I would consider buying. Not that they don't have other nice vehicles, just that this one actually calls to me the way the Mustang took me away from Chevy in 2006.

    Problem is going to be the $43,500 price tag and the fact that I got a paid off Mustang in the garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spooln30 View Post
    Well the new 5.0 guys better watch out.
    In all fairness, the 5.0 is a better value...by far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Valiant View Post
    In all fairness, the 5.0 is a better value...by far.
    i agree with this...

    but as cool as the new challenger is, it could really use a diet @ nearly 4200lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver86 View Post
    but as cool as the new challenger is, it could really use a diet @ nearly 4200lbs.
    eh, but the reality is that cars are just going to get heavier and heavier. Or far more expensive.

    I would be nice to see an AL block in this thing...which really should make it weigh the same as the much smaller camaro. Look at v6 to v6 wt...less than a high school back-pack's difference in wt.

    It's amazing to see the weights of various cars all over the place. 4,000+lbs is not a rarity by any means...which is amazing since my 85 Ramcharger didn't weigh much more, and my 79 fullsize pick-up weighs less than a new camaro!
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    not to mention the boss mustang will clean its clock and it will be worth more and looks better

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    12.4 @ 110 at that weight is getting it all done early (auto), with some forced induction it would realy wake up the top end. Thing is almost as fast as a radial tired 4 banger Omni
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Cooper View Post
    not to mention the boss mustang will clean its clock and it will be worth more and looks better
    Hpmh. To compare:

    (source: Motor Trend)

    Shelby GT500
    HP= 550
    Tq= 510
    base price-49,495
    1/4: 12.5 @ 115


    SRT8 Challenger
    HP= 470hp
    Tq= 470
    base price-43,380
    1/4: 12.44 @ 110

    Now, I'm sure when the boss comes along, it will be a fine car...but "clean its clock" it probably won't. It'll probably be a drivers race with a clear competitive advantage due to size on a road course...not that the SRT would be considered an ill-handling/braking car.

    As to what the better value of the boss, that remains to be seen...given that it's base price will likely be around that of the SRT's, b/w 40-45G.

    Now one could try to argue that no way the boss will be that expensive...or will it? When MT compared the mustang to the BMW M3, the cost of the options that brought it to the handling level to be competitive with the said M3, it's price crested 40,000 bucks as equipped.

    It's obvious ford thinks a great handling mustang is worth a pretty penny, even before you account for the limited availability and desirability of a car w/ the "Boss" moniker and all the upcoming engine enhancements to bring the little 5.0 from 412hp to 440...it should safely cost over 40,000. Once one starts to compare the merits of the two, the picture becomes less clear...

    essentially though, what people want is what they want...when it comes to the camaro/mustang/challenger, most have already decided what they want. The differences are what's left for the fan-boi's to haggle over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Valiant View Post
    Hpmh. To compare:

    (source: Motor Trend)

    Shelby GT500
    HP= 550
    Tq= 510
    base price-49,495
    1/4: 12.5 @ 115


    SRT8 Challenger
    HP= 470hp
    Tq= 470
    base price-43,380
    1/4: 12.44 @ 110

    Now, I'm sure when the boss comes along, it will be a fine car...but "clean its clock" it probably won't. It'll probably be a drivers race with a clear competitive advantage due to size on a road course...not that the SRT would be considered an ill-handling/braking car.

    As to what the better value of the boss, that remains to be seen...given that it's base price will likely be around that of the SRT's, b/w 40-45G.

    Now one could try to argue that no way the boss will be that expensive...or will it? When MT compared the mustang to the BMW M3, the cost of the options that brought it to the handling level to be competitive with the said M3, it's price crested 40,000 bucks as equipped.

    It's obvious ford thinks a great handling mustang is worth a pretty penny, even before you account for the limited availability and desirability of a car w/ the "Boss" moniker and all the upcoming engine enhancements to bring the little 5.0 from 412hp to 440...it should safely cost over 40,000. Once one starts to compare the merits of the two, the picture becomes less clear...

    essentially though, what people want is what they want...when it comes to the camaro/mustang/challenger, most have already decided what they want. The differences are what's left for the fan-boi's to haggle over.
    To be fair, that Mustang in the MT article had more than just performance packaging, the spec'ed it with allot of luxury options to compare it to the GT nature of the M3. Considering only the performance addons, that Mustang is only about 33k or so. Since the Boss will be no frills sporty, the 40k range is a safe assumption, though I doubt it will crack GT500 territory. What's interesting will be how much over the cost of the Boss the Red Key option will be that really turns the Boss into a fire breathing track machine.

    Each car is for a different buyer, the fact the Mustang appeals to both straight line and handling performance folks really helps the equation.
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    hmmmmm.....seems that the 392 is a little under rated.

    http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...nger-srt8.html

    Nice. Gotta keep that in mind. Engine would be a nice fit in a new JGC SRT8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Valiant View Post
    eh, but the reality is that cars are just going to get heavier and heavier. Or far more expensive.
    Not really heavier. Most manufacturers have pledged to cut the weight of their vehicles going into the future. Nissan announced a few years ago that they planned to cut vehicle weight by 15% by 201x (can't recall the exact year but I want to say 2014) and a few others have made similar pledges. Nissan has already started doing this too. The Altima, Maxima, and 370z are all lighter and smaller then the previous gens. Toyota and GM are especially hard at work on figuring out a way to manufacture cf to use in every day cars. Heck GM has already used lightweight smart materials in the Malibu Max and didn't even say anything about it at the time. Those mart materials cut the weight of that hatch by a significant amount.

    But probably far more expensive.

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    Apparently I'll want the auto...C&D and MT both got much slower 13.0's and 12.9's, though both with higher traps from the 6 speed manuals (C&D got 114mph).
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    Eh, why argue about the petty brand X vs brand Y stuff? I just think that it's amazing how great all of these new cars perform, despite their tonnage. Now, when Dodge makes that HEMI a 426, drops 400 pounds off of the Challenger and puts a real shaker hood on it, I might be inclined to go broke on car payments again...
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    There were a few of those at SEMA. Buy the car and build it to your liking. The 426 piston kit, hood, cuda front/tail kits are all out there now. I just wish the economy would support having a $40k "spare" car sometime soon.

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    all im sayin is that a small cubed boss willl be enough to beat the monster cubed slopar and will still go to road america and deff. whoop its ass all day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Cooper View Post
    all im sayin is that a small cubed boss willl be enough to beat the monster cubed slopar and with still go to road america and deff. whoop its ass all day
    Mopar would be like trying to watch a fat girl run around a track.

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    Not bad but, I'd be curious to see if Ford releases a version with the new 6.2 and a supercharger on it at some point.

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    This sure seems like history repeating itself. 1964.5 Ford introduces the Mustand and then Chevy and Mopar followed with the pony cars. Then the horsepower war started and lasted until 1972-73 and it all came to an end and the economy was shit.

    Hopefully that doesnt happen again, and the economy does turn around and these cars keep coming out.

    A Z28, BOSS, SRT-8 shootout would be pretty cool to see. They are expensive, but, they were then too, relatively speaking.

    Im a Ford guy, but I really like the looks of the Challenger. The Camaro not doing anything for me right now.

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    I think the death of the original muscle cars was due more to more extreme emission standards, but im only 25, so i could be wrong.
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