New Ford engines...

[Prince Valiant]

Anyone see the new ford offerings? Looks like some good stuff FINALLY coming from them in the engine dept:

Base 3.7 v6: 302hp/305ft-lbs torque (compares to the GM 4800 Dodge 4.7 quite nicely)
opt 5.0 v8: 360hp/380ft-lbs of torque
opt twin turbo 3.5 v6: 365hp/420ft-lbs torque (not sure how well recieved this will be...I'm figuring it'll be popular in limited circles, but most will stick with a traditional v8).
opt 6.2 V8: 411hp/434ft-lbs of torque. Should make 2,421hp with just a turbo and a fuel pump and stock long block

No more 4.6/5.4's to beat up on

Read about the driving the new fords and comparissons to other makes here:
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/27/2...est/#continued

[animal]

Yay, "we" finally have something worthy of Prince's praise

[Prince Valiant]

Yay, "we" finally have something worthy of Prince's praise

lol...yes, that was a pretty poor way for me to word it

So I regret the wording, but not the sentiment...

[BOSS LX]

The best trucks, just got better! Don't forget about the 6.7!

[emptypockets]

Don't forget about the 6.7!

A co-worker of mine has one of these heaps, its gets the worst milage ive ever seen out of a diesel and it drives like a turd. Ive owned the past three generations of duramax engines, including the new LML wich I took delivery of two weeks ago. That 6.7 had alot of hype, and from what I can tell thats exactly what it was... Hype...

[FoxStang]

opt twin turbo 3.5 v6: 365hp/420ft-lbs torque (not sure how well recieved this will be...I'm figuring it'll be popular in limited circles, but most will stick with a traditional v8).

The torque curve on that one is supposed to be pretty low end biased, should be interesting how it competes with the 5.0 based on pricing.

[Prince Valiant]

The torque curve on that one is supposed to be pretty low end biased, should be interesting how it competes with the 5.0 based on pricing.

This is certainly the case...in a direct comparison to the 5.0 in terms of driving dynamics the 3.5 bound to superior.

BUT, will the typical truck buyer favor a relatively higher tech twin turbo, DI v6 gas engine over that of a traditional v8? I know diesel guys have no qualms about turbo charging, nor direct injection, nor the presence of smaller displacement v6's...but will the half-ton gas guys be as crazy about it? Or will they go to the mechanically simpler traditional type powertrain?

My guess is that such an engine would need to offer substantially better gas mileage to lure the traditional v8 guys to the fold...on the order of 3mpg better than a regular v8.

[FoxStang]

On that subject makes me wonder what the aftermarket for the turbo trucks will be within a couple of years...
I wanted to do the Ford promotion where they let you drive them all, but unfortunately their not coming to Chicago. I'm most excited about the 6.2, still trying to convince a certain family member to buy a raptor...