not to bad of deals...a bit much for both but ive seen ALOT worse signing than this...we have ALOT of depth and skiles loves to use a deep rotation...once redd is gone next year we can add another quality player....or if there is a god we can trade him this season to a team trying to shed salary and will give up a quality player...

if redd stays and can stay healthy he would be a very good 6th man type player...i know 17mil for a 6th man is INSANE but we have to try and make the best out of the situation...he's a very nice man and i hope he can stay healthy...if he can he is a very good scorer and a knock down shooter...but he's as fragile as t-mac...WOW...lol