L.A. OR Boston

[hrsp]

for fun....compare mj's career starts against kobes career stats....


to say he;s not clutch is insane....
kobe was playing defense and playing it well before it became "cool"

this guy cant win...he scores 40 hes greedy...he scores 15 and he sucks...he wins 3 rings they says its cuz of shaq...he wins 2 more and they say its gasol...when he wins 2 more it will be because of bynum? lol....the man scored 81 in a game...just think about that.....he has 5 rings and is only 31...say what you will but this guy has EARNED his way to be one of the top3 EVER...

you say you would "consider" lebron? WHY???? please explain this to me?

[Prince Valiant]

for fun....compare mj's career starts against kobes career stats....

Yeah, makes one wonder why people compare Kobe to Mj, eh? I mean, there really isn't much of a comparison.

to say he;s not clutch is insane....

Is that what I said?!?

He ain't even close to the clutch king.

This isn't saying he isn't a clutch player...but compare Jordan in the clutch to Kobe. Kobe's had some great ones, but MJ's had better, bigger ones. And then, even though MJ wasn't as young to be able to be put in this position there is always this for Kobe:



Also to be fair, one of the three "airballs" did kind of graze the rim

Kobe's 81 was damn impressive. I'd probably have a tough time scoring 81 in a gym by-myself in two hours, let alone in 48 minutes against NBA players...but I digress. Say I consider David Robinson around my 16th best or 17th best ever...well, he scored 71 once. I don't even put David Thompson in my best ever top 20, but he scored 73 in a game (as a college player though, Thompson would be considered one of the 5 best....). Hakeem Olajuwon never scored more than 52, but I consider him one of my top 8.

When great players have monster games they can do damn impressive things...but his single game pt total doesn't sway me from having him in the top 15, not top 2, or even 3.

Kobe's playing defense since before it was cool? He wasn't even in the league when defense became cool, lol (Think Detroit Pistons 89 and 90). Defensive specialist like michael cooper, Dennis Rodman, Alvin Robertson...hell, Michael Jordan all were terrific defenders whose defensive stats made Kobe's look a little pale, and were around LONG before Kobe...

As far as Lebron, you wanted to compare Kobe's stats to MJ's?!? A more apt comparison is Kobe's to Lebron. Only thing is, is that Lebron has thus far averaged more pts, more rebounds, more assist, right around the same number of steals...

This isn't to say I think Lebron is better...right now, starting a team, I'd want Kobe. But to think they are comparable when evaluating who is the top player in the league currently is silly. While I think they are pretty comparable, I'd could only say that lebron is safely in my top 25, while Kobe is safely in my top 15...but lebron is young, he could move up. Kobe is in his prime 6 or 8 seasons...for him, this is as good as it gets.

[gottwins?]

For the sake of your argument I really hope that was not his rookie seson...hahaha (I think it is )

The guy just won his 5th ring and 2nd MVP award in row with a broken finger and busted knee LOL Kobe is one of a kind, one of the greatest players to play in th NBA and he still has time to add to his resume!

Here is one of two videos (guess they coulnt fit all of them into one HAHA), its just proof of the raw talent and "clutchness" that he has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZXIq...eature=related

Facts are facts.

[gottwins?]

Here is some more, damn he is a BEAST!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Symn7BomLdI

Some more clutch for YA! Just listen to the announcers "time and time again.."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKDyV404HXs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNl9P04gXKA

For the record I was a Kobe hater..I bought into the media and their BS and what they tried to portray of him. After some research it enlightened me of his work ethic and desire to win. He will do ANYTHING to win even if it meant him not taking shots...but how many times this year alone in the playoffs did he make shots with a hand in his face? He does it BECAUSE HE CAN! I bet if you ask his teammates they dont mind one bit! Actually if you look closely at the end of the celtics game 7 you see his team praising him and encouraging him to take it on himself. Yet his haters talk shit about it, amazing. LOL As hrsp said, the guy cant win with his critics, because if all those miraculous cluch wins, 5 rings and mvp awards wont change their mind (when his carrer isint even over yet)..then nothing will!



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