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    2011 F-250 vs 2010 Ram 2500

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    http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html

    (what's up with the f-250 styling though?!?)
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    64K for the ford!!! WHOLY FUCKERBALLS!!! All that torque and power from both and they still runs mid 16s stock?? WTF??? I understand they will each respond well to tuners, but damn one would think alot more performance should be there right out of the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAD LS1 View Post
    64K for the ford!!! WHOLY FUCKERBALLS!!! All that torque and power from both and they still runs mid 16s stock?? WTF??? I understand they will each respond well to tuners, but damn one would think alot more performance should be there right out of the box.
    It's going to be interesting to see what Chevy and Dodge turn the wicks up to to match the Ford's 735ft-lbs of torque.
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    Tom, that 64k price tag on the 250 is for a fully loaded King Ranch Supercrew, which is one step above the lariat. you can count on the truck being 20k less in xlt form, which is what the average person who buys the diesel 250 wants..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutwaver View Post
    Tom, that 64k price tag on the 250 is for a fully loaded King Ranch Supercrew, which is one step above the lariat. you can count on the truck being 20k less in xlt form, which is what the average person who buys the diesel 250 wants..........
    God id hate to see what a "king expensive" dually runs!!

    So it will be 55K for the lesser models and 45k for the blue-collar specials

    On another interesting note, that Urea injection, i just found out today that Urea and diesel fuel were some of the main ingredients on the OKC bombing!!! No better wayt o clean sout out of a cat i guess than that! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAD LS1 View Post
    God id hate to see what a "king expensive" dually runs!!

    So it will be 55K for the lesser models and 45k for the blue-collar specials

    On another interesting note, that Urea injection, i just found out today that Urea and diesel fuel were some of the main ingredients on the OKC bombing!!! No better wayt o clean sout out of a cat i guess than that! lol

    Lol I hear you on both points. Just think of how much a fully loaded King Ranch/HD edition dually runs
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    ill stick with my 05' or a 06' cummins
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    I like my duramax. they can all keep their urea injection systems. stupid diesel emissions.
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    Tom you have to remember these are easily 7500 lbs trucks. There is a lot of weight to move.

    The prrices on new diesels is ludicrous...thats probably why used diesels keep increasing in value.

    I really dont have much hope for this new ford ...but only time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Valiant View Post
    It's going to be interesting to see what Chevy and Dodge turn the wicks up to to match the Ford's 735ft-lbs of torque.
    Chevy's answer for 2011 will be 397/765. Makes my 365/660 seem wimpy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyMax View Post
    Chevy's answer for 2011 will be 397/765. Makes my 365/660 seem wimpy...
    I remember being amazed by trucks putting out 450-500 ft-lbs of torque, lol. Hard to recall the old 6.2 chevy diesel with something like 250 ft-lbs of torque...or even the 6.5 TD with a whopping 360ish
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    You can now do pricing on them for basic build

    Pick motor, 4x4 or 4x2, axle, cab style, and box length.

    http://bp2.forddirect.fordvehicles.c...y#page=/Style/

    Cheapest looks to be about $36k
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    Id still go with the Cummins, because you know you can get well over 250,000 miles out of one, it just depends on how the Dodge body and parts stay together. The highest milage Cummins ive seen was a 2004.5 with 564,000 miles on it and it was mint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plum Crazy View Post
    The highest milage Cummins ive seen was a 2004.5 with 564,000 miles on it and it was mint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyMax View Post
    Chevy's answer for 2011 will be 397/765. Makes my 365/660 seem wimpy...
    got a link to anything with the new duramax in it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakonda69 View Post
    got a link to anything with the new duramax in it?
    Some stuff in and around this website...

    http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/03...v8-diesel.html

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    lmao @ the Ram, straggling behind by HUUUUGGGEEE numbers on payload and tow capacity. Along with the 6.7 being fairly weak compared to the other two stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bag View Post
    lmao @ the Ram, straggling behind by HUUUUGGGEEE numbers on payload and tow capacity. Along with the 6.7 being fairly weak compared to the other two stock.
    What, do you think it's not a matter of simply turning up the wick? Like the 5.9 in your truck basically started at a measely 400ft-lbs of torque, yet toward the end was at 550-600ft-lbs...and lord knows capable of much more.

    And despite the disadvantage, it appears per the actual test numbers, that cummins that was "fairly weak" still performed similarly to the Ford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Valiant View Post
    What, do you think it's not a matter of simply turning up the wick? Like the 5.9 in your truck basically started at a measely 400ft-lbs of torque, yet toward the end was at 550-600ft-lbs...and lord knows capable of much more.

    And despite the disadvantage, it appears per the actual test numbers, that cummins that was "fairly weak" still performed similarly to the Ford.
    you completely missed my point. I'm not talking modified or turning up the wick...im talking NOW stock for stock. The tow ratings are not even close. Sure the test pulling a 6,000 lbs trailer is going to be pretty damn similar between all trucks because its well within their tow rating.

    Also Dodge has always had the shittiest payload capacities and tow capacities compared to their counterparts.

    Obviously I'd take the Cummins Dodge over the other two.
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