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    the death of the dmax

    well not so much but this going to change the diesel performance market!! stand alone ecm for cummins common rails.

    http://www.destroked.com/zeus/index.shtml
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    wow! that's is cool,

    how much does that run?

    but the music in the vid leaves much to be desiered, lol.
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    haha.. its around $3,800 but all the shit it gives u ur going to spend close to that anyway. a good chip "stack" is around $1k plus a data logger $1-2k so its right in the ball park. bosch introduced a limited stand alone late last year and was $9k! yea, needless to say only the "big guys" have purchased it and said u need to be a scientist to run it.
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    wow. that is damn expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakonda69 View Post
    wow. that is damn expensive.
    gotta pay to play..this obviously isnt for everyone... i had $1200 just in chips and tuners in my truck and was limited.. that is unlimited! i would have dished out that if i could have kept the vp44 and 100% daily drivability!
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    Not outa line at all when you look at true standalone systems with datalog output and expandable gauge direct hookup. If your vehicle is'nt a GM product (free online cals) $4000 for plug and play looks tempting compared to desoldering OE computers, soldering in chip sockets and swapping countless reburns until you find one that is just "ok".
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    So is the tuning of Diesels that complex, that someone has not made something like this before? And its so expensive?

    Or has there just not been the demand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nismodave View Post
    So is the tuning of Diesels that complex, that someone has not made something like this before? And its so expensive?

    Or has there just not been the demand?
    Its electronics (Cummins) platform doesnt lend well to remapping, this is a complete ECM replacement right down to elaborate injector drivers and enough programing to run a dozen of our gas powerd cars.

    When I reprogram Cummins' or simply update them I can literaly go to lunch while the process grabs info, sends it off and downloads it. This would apear to be an instant update.

    The inline 6 by design is superior, if they did there homework you will probably see yuppies sending driveshafts across traffic lanes at freeway speed
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    so this will give cummins owners similiar options to what efi does for us d-max guys?
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    EFI is like 700 bucks ain't it?
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    dyno tuning for efi live at hucksdorf is $500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakonda69 View Post
    dyno tuning for efi live at hucksdorf is $500.
    for the equilivilant efi live dmax program its around 2k. thats for the unlimited tuning program.. that $500 at hd gets u there tune, but nothing else. u dont own the program and no data logger. so everytime u change something u gota pay another 500 for a retune by them.
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    Also with the tuning capabilities of the zues i will NOT be surprised to see a 40mpg+ 1 ton from this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrous View Post
    I prefer my EFI Live.
    You know, i have a pretty good amount of experience with both EFI and HP tuners and I have to say that im not a fan of EFI. HP tuners just has such a better layout and is much more user friendly. EFI is pushed very heavily in the diesel community though, unsure why. Seems to be a far inferior product in my eyes. If you ever have a chance to us HP you may never pick up that EFI handheld again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by emptypockets View Post
    You know, i have a pretty good amount of experience with both EFI and HP tuners and I have to say that im not a fan of EFI. HP tuners just has such a better layout and is much more user friendly. EFI is pushed very heavily in the diesel community though, unsure why. Seems to be a far inferior product in my eyes. If you ever have a chance to us HP you may never pick up that EFI handheld again!
    hp tuners is gauged more for gas application and efi live is more for diesel they both work on either or but the tuning is better for one and not the other...i've seen efi and hp tables and there almost identical from what i've seen...once i get my truck back i plan to go with efi live as im not sure my other tuner will be enough anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monstr913 View Post
    hp tuners is gauged more for gas application and efi live is more for diesel they both work on either or but the tuning is better for one and not the other...i've seen efi and hp tables and there almost identical from what i've seen...once i get my truck back i plan to go with efi live as im not sure my other tuner will be enough anymore
    To comment on the bold part of your response. They reason that HP tuners is "guaged" towards gas and EFI towards diesel is because that is the way they are marketed. EFI was marketed to the Diesel guys and HP to the gas guys. Both tuners are able to tune the exact same parameters so neither is actually a better tool for changing the tune on a diesel or a gasser. The ability to change the tune is the same with either product. Thats the bottom line on that.

    As far as having more options for live datalogging and how user friendly the software is though, HP tuners wins hands down and IMO is a much better tuning tool.

    Im currently on my 3rd Dmax truck. Ive had a LLY, LBZ, and now im on a LMM and will be purchasing a LML as soon as they hit the lots. The LLY and LBZ I tuned using EFI. Then after talking with some people who owned HP tuners I was very easily persuaded to switch after seeing how much easier it is to work with. So far I have used HP on the LBZ before I sold it and the current LMM truck as well as quite a few of my co-workers trucks with great results. I will never use EFI again and if you would like to buy mine from me we could work somthing out.

    Take a look at HP before you pull the trigger on EFI, its cheaper as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emptypockets View Post
    You know, i have a pretty good amount of experience with both EFI and HP tuners and I have to say that im not a fan of EFI. HP tuners just has such a better layout and is much more user friendly. EFI is pushed very heavily in the diesel community though, unsure why. Seems to be a far inferior product in my eyes. If you ever have a chance to us HP you may never pick up that EFI handheld again!
    I've owned my HP Tuners for 5+ years as well.
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    Man the diesel guys get raped hard. IMO $3700 seems like A LOT for a standalone. P-N-P or not.

    But hey it sounds like it is the first of its kind so they can charge almost anything they want. I'm sure eventually it will get cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatsADSM View Post
    Man the diesel guys get raped hard. IMO $3700 seems like A LOT for a standalone. P-N-P or not.

    But hey it sounds like it is the first of its kind so they can charge almost anything they want. I'm sure eventually it will get cheaper.
    have u ever looked into the price of big stuff 3 or equivilant? this is pretty much the same thing. ur not "reflashing" this is a entire new ecm.
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