New 5.oh on the dyno

[Prince Valiant]

Well, I'm sure it'll be fast.....

All new cars are pigs. Amazing how a 3300# sports car these days is a lightweight.

What's interesting is MT put some older articles related to the mustang in anticipation of the return of the 5.0...and had articles from 83 even, featuring the 83 stang and camaro, as well as the upcoming 84 Dodge Daytona turboZ

The camaro was the porker of the group at 3100#

...followed by the Daytona at 2600#

While the 'stang was the sveltest of the group at 2550#

(for the record, 1/4 mile was camaro in 15.5, 'stang in 16.1, and Daytona 16.4...so, despite the light weight, the lack of hp was killing them, lol. Highest hp was the camaro at 190, 'stang at 175, Daytona 142hp)

[HITMAN]

I stand corrected on my above statment about it being roughly 300 lbs lighter, they are nearly identical w/o driver.


5.0L 4V Ti-VCT V-8 17/25 (est.) 16/24 (est.)
BASE CURB WEIGHT (POUNDS)
Manual transmission 3,875 (est.) 4,000 (est.)
Automatic transmission 4,000 (est.) 4,000 (est.)
Weight distribution (f/r) 54/46 (est.) 54/46 (est.)
Specifications subject to change without prior notification

Where in thee fuck did you source that BS from?
Here are Fords' specs for the car:
http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2...g_GT_Specs.pdf

The car gains almost no weight from the 2010 car and according to C&D their 2010 test vehicle weighed 3580lbs.

[Prince Valiant]

Which is to say it weighs 3605#?

[GTSLOW]

where in thee fuck did you source that bs from?
Here are fords' specs for the car:
http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2...g_gt_specs.pdf

the car gains almost no weight from the 2010 car and according to c&d their 2010 test vehicle weighed 3580lbs.

Ford RAGE right thur!

[BOSS LX]

Well, I'm sure it'll be fast.....What's interesting is MT put some older articles related to the mustang in anticipation of the return of the 5.0...and had articles from 83 even, featuring the 83 stang and camaro, as well as the upcoming 84 Dodge Daytona turboZ

The camaro was the porker of the group at 3100#

...followed by the Daytona at 2600#

While the 'stang was the sveltest of the group at 2550#

(for the record, 1/4 mile was camaro in 15.5, 'stang in 16.1, and Daytona 16.4...so, despite the light weight, the lack of hp was killing them, lol. Highest hp was the camaro at 190, 'stang at 175, Daytona 142hp)

There is no way a 83 mustang weighs 2550.

[Prince Valiant]

There is no way a 83 mustang weighs 2550.

According to the vintage '83 MT article is did:

http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...son/specs.html

[FoxStang]

According to the vintage '83 MT article is did:

http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...son/specs.html

Must be a typo, or that Fox lost 500 pounds somewhere.
Edit:
That article also claims that the Mustang weights 159.1 kg, must of been a rare breed, 350 pounds.

Someone definitely got the numbers wrong.

[TransAm12sec]

lol, I think they forgot a 1 for the kg rating.

159.1 kg (2550.0 lb)

I remember weights on the sticker inside the door jam were lighter than normal, maybe a shipping weight or something like that.

[HITMAN]

Which is to say it weighs 3605#?

Yeah. Even with a full tank of gas and a 200lb driver this thing shouldn't be as heavy as Tom's specs showed. It's a smaller car than a Camaro, and it doesn't have that oh-so-sophisticated dead weight wheel hopping IRS trying to make it sink to the core of the planet. Ford went all out to make sure that the incoming Coyote 4V engine weighed no more than the outgoing 3V 4.6. The only real appreciable weight gain, near as I can tell, are the new transmissions. They probably account for the weight discrepancy between the '10 and the '11 model years.

[Prince Valiant]

Motor trend has done a dyno session as well with both the GT and v6 stangs.

Their dyno (K&N's shop dyno) was a little less optimistic and returned 365hp in 3rd gear, 377hp in 4th. (still impressive, don't get me wrong---and still suggesting that it's either underrated or perhaps still a little optimistic)

The V6 returned 267hp in 4th gear.

http://wot.motortrend.com/6659607/au....html#comments

[HITMAN]

Motor trend has done a dyno session as well with both the GT and v6 stangs.

Their dyno (K&N's shop dyno) was a little less optimistic and returned 365hp in 3rd gear, 377hp in 4th. (still impressive, don't get me wrong---and still suggesting that it's either underrated or perhaps still a little optimistic)

The V6 returned 267hp in 4th gear.

http://wot.motortrend.com/6659607/au....html#comments

Inside Line may have also gone ahead and used 5th gear as opposed to MT which used 3rd and 4th. I disagree with MT's assessment that with the rear gearing (3.31:1) that 5th would have been too steep for a dyno pull. Also, there is an optional final drive for this car (3.73:1) and they may have had this and made a 5th gear pull. I'm not saying this is what they did, but it may account for the discrepancy.

[WhatsADSM]

Yea FWIW the car should have been dyno'd in 5th..

The whole point is the dyno that car in a 1:1 ratio to try to minimize the drive-train loss.

Doesn't really matter though you are splitting hairs I would say it safe to say they dyno around 380 and will weight just over 3600. Pretty impressive.

P.S. There is nothing wrong with an IRS if you plan to use the car to turn. Also you have to actually make a decent one unlike the one in the 03 cobra.

[BOSS LX]

12.8@110.8 mph Stock!!!


http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

The 6 banger ran 13.7@102

[TransAm12sec]

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

There are a few ... in that link.

V8
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t_numbers.html

V6
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t_numbers.html

[BAD LS1]

Thats pretty cool! Thats faster than 03-04 cobras' ran stock! Finally, a bone stock ford motor that doesnt need FI to be respectable.

Watch the V6 vid, check out the wheel hop though, its worse than my IRS turd! Not nearly as bad from the V8 car, but its there.

Im aching to come across one of these on the street yet for a little touch em up session... But what a much improved car over the 05-09's is! I first just noticed the new changes in the interior now, much more GM-like ford stuff is getting interior wise, thats good!

[letsrunem]

Wow this is the first mustang I've liked since the foxes.

[Prince Valiant]

The 6 banger ran 13.7@102

hmmm...maybe the wife would like a v6 stang?

[BOSS LX]

hmmm...maybe[/email] the wife would like a v6 stang?

Next time I see her I will ask!

[BOSS LX]

I wonder if 3640 is the real weight?

[Prince Valiant]

Next time I see her I will ask!

Have you seen her a first time?