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    Open Carry in Wi

    I'm trying to track down all the State Statues regarding Open Carry to prove to a co-worker that it is indeed legal. These are the few I tracked down, know if any others? Also has anyone here open carried?

    941.235 Carrying firearm in public building. (1) Any
    person who goes armed with a firearm in any building owned or
    leased by the state or any political subdivision of the state is guilty
    of a Class A misdemeanor.
    (2) This section does not apply to peace officers or armed
    forces or military personnel who go armed in the line of duty or
    to any person duly authorized by the chief of police of any city,
    village or town, the chief of the capitol police, or the sheriff of any
    county to possess a firearm in any building under sub. (1). Notwithstanding
    s. 939.22 (22), for purposes of this subsection, peace
    officer does not include a commission warden who is not a state−
    certified commission warden.
    History: 1979 c. 221; 1991 a. 172; 1993 a. 246; 2001 a. 109; 2007 a. 27.
    941.237 Carrying handgun where alcohol beverages
    may be sold and consumed. (1) In this section:
    (a) “Alcohol beverages” has the meaning given in s. 125.02
    (1).
    (b) “Correctional officer” means any person employed by the
    state or any political subdivision as a guard or officer whose principal
    duties are the supervision and discipline of inmates.
    (c) “Encased” has the meaning given in s. 167.31 (1) (b).
    CRIMES — PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY 941.26
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    (cm) “Firearms dealer” means any person engaged in the business
    of importing, manufacturing or dealing in firearms and having
    a license as an importer, manufacturer or dealer issued by the
    U.S. department of the treasury.
    (d) “Handgun” has the meaning given in s. 175.35 (1) (b).
    (dm) “Hotel” has the meaning given in s. 254.61 (3).
    (dr) Notwithstanding s. 939.22 (22), “peace officer” does not
    include a commission warden who is not a state−certified commission
    warden.
    (e) “Premises” has the meaning given in s. 125.02 (14m), but
    excludes any area primarily used as a residence.
    (em) “Private security person” has the meaning given in s.
    440.26 (1m) (h).
    (f) “Target range” means any area where persons are allowed
    to use a handgun to fire shots at targets.
    (fm) “Tavern” means an establishment, other than a private
    club or fraternal organization, in which alcohol beverages are sold
    for consumption on the premises.
    (g) “Unloaded” means any of the following:
    1. Having no shell or cartridge in the chamber of a handgun
    or in the magazine attached to a handgun.
    2. In the case of a caplock muzzle−loading handgun, having
    the cap removed.
    3. In the case of a flintlock muzzle−loading handgun, having
    the flashpan cleaned of powder.
    (2) Whoever intentionally goes armed with a handgun on any
    premises for which a Class “B” or “Class B” license or permit has
    been issued under ch. 125 is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.
    (3) Subsection (2) does not apply to any of the following:
    (a) A peace officer.
    (b) A correctional officer while going armed in the line of duty.
    (c) A member of the U.S. armed forces or national guard while
    going armed in the line of duty.
    (cm) A private security person meeting all of the following criteria:
    1. The private security person is covered by a license or permit
    issued under s. 440.26.
    2. The private security person is going armed in the line of
    duty.
    3. The private security person is acting with the consent of the
    person specified in par. (d).
    (d) The licensee, owner, or manager of the premises, or any
    employee or agent authorized to possess a handgun by the
    licensee, owner, or manager of the premises.
    (e) The possession of a handgun that is unloaded and encased
    in a vehicle in any parking lot area.
    (f) The possession or use of a handgun at a public or private
    gun or sportsmen’s range or club.
    (g) The possession or use of a handgun on the premises if
    authorized for a specific event of limited duration by the owner or
    manager of the premises who is issued the Class “B” or “Class B”
    license or permit under ch. 125 for the premises.
    (h) The possession of any handgun that is used for decoration
    if the handgun is encased, inoperable or secured in a locked condition.
    (i) The possession of a handgun in any portion of a hotel other
    than the portion of the hotel that is a tavern.
    (j) The possession of a handgun in any portion of a combination
    tavern and store devoted to other business if the store is owned
    or operated by a firearms dealer, the other business includes the
    sale of handguns and the handgun is possessed in a place other
    than a tavern.
    (4) The state does not have to negate any exception under sub.
    (3). Any party that claims that an exception under sub. (3) is applicable
    has the burden of proving the exception by a preponderance
    of the evidence.
    History: 1993 a. 95, 491; 1995 a. 461; 2007 a. 27.
    Sub. (3) does not allow going armed with a concealed handgun in violation of s.
    941.23. State v. Mata, 199 Wis. 2d 315, 544 N.W.2d 578 (Ct. App. 1996), 95−1336.

    941.29 Possession of a firearm. (1) A person is subject to
    the requirements and penalties of this section if he or she has been:
    (a) Convicted of a felony in this state.
    (b) Convicted of a crime elsewhere that would be a felony if
    committed in this state.
    (bm) Adjudicated delinquent for an act committed on or after
    April 21, 1994, that if committed by an adult in this state would
    be a felony.
    (c) Found not guilty of a felony in this state by reason of mental
    disease or defect.
    (d) Found not guilty of or not responsible for a crime elsewhere
    that would be a felony in this state by reason of insanity or mental
    disease, defect or illness.
    (e) Committed for treatment under s. 51.20 (13) (a) and
    ordered not to possess a firearm under s. 51.20 (13) (cv).
    (f) Enjoined under an injunction issued under s. 813.12 or
    813.122 or under a tribal injunction, as defined in s. 813.12 (1) (e),
    issued by a court established by any federally recognized Wisconsin
    Indian tribe or band, except the Menominee Indian tribe of
    Wisconsin, that includes notice to the respondent that he or she is
    subject to the requirements and penalties under s. 941.29 and that
    has been filed under s. 806.247 (3).
    (g) Ordered not to possess a firearm under s. 813.125 (4m).
    (2) A person specified in sub. (1) is guilty of a Class G felony
    if he or she possesses a firearm under any of the following circumstances:
    (a) The person possesses a firearm subsequent to the conviction
    for the felony or other crime, as specified in sub. (1) (a) or (b).
    (b) The person possesses a firearm subsequent to the adjudication,
    as specified in sub. (1) (bm).
    (c) The person possesses a firearm subsequent to the finding
    of not guilty or not responsible by reason of insanity or mental disease,
    defect or illness as specified in sub. (1) (c) or (d).
    (d) The person possesses a firearm while subject to the court
    order, as specified in sub. (1) (e) or (g).
    (e) The person possesses a firearm while the injunction, as specified
    in sub. (1) (f), is in effect.
    (3) Any firearm involved in an offense under sub. (2) is subject
    to s. 968.20 (3).
    (4) A person is concerned with the commission of a crime, as
    specified in s. 939.05 (2) (b), in violation of this section if he or
    she knowingly furnishes a person with a firearm in violation of
    sub. (2).
    (5) This section does not apply to any person specified in sub.
    (1) who:
    (a) Has received a pardon with respect to the crime or felony
    specified in sub. (1) and has been expressly authorized to possess
    a firearm under 18 USC app. 1203; or
    (b) Has obtained relief from disabilities under 18 USC 925 (c).
    (6) The prohibition against firearm possession under this section
    does not apply to any correctional officer employed before
    May 1, 1982, who is required to possess a firearm as a condition
    of employment. This exemption applies if the officer is eligible
    to possess a firearm under any federal law and applies while the
    officer is acting in an official capacity.
    (7) This section does not apply to any person who has been
    found not guilty or not responsible by reason of insanity or mental
    disease, defect or illness if a court subsequently determines both
    of the following:
    (a) The person is no longer insane or no longer has a mental
    disease, defect or illness.
    (b) The person is not likely to act in a manner dangerous to public
    safety.
    (8) This section does not apply to any person specified in sub.
    (1) (bm) if a court subsequently determines that the person is not
    likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety. In any action
    or proceeding regarding this determination, the person has the
    burden of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that he or
    she is not likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety.
    (9) This section does not apply to a person specified in sub. (1)
    (e) if the prohibition under s. 51.20 (13) (cv) 1. has been canceled
    under s. 51.20 (13) (cv) 2. or (16) (gm).
    (10) The prohibition against firearm possession under this
    section does not apply to a person specified in sub. (1) (f) if the
    person satisfies any of the following:
    (a) The person is a peace officer and the person possesses a
    firearm while in the line of duty or, if required to do so as a condition
    of employment, while off duty. Notwithstanding s. 939.22
    (22), for purposes of this paragraph, peace officer does not include
    a commission warden who is not a state−certified commission
    warden.
    (b) The person is a member of the U.S. armed forces or national
    guard and the person possesses a firearm while in the line of duty.
    History: 1981 c. 141, 317; 1983 a. 269; 1985 a. 259; 1993 a. 195, 196, 491; 1995
    a. 71, 77, 306, 417; 2001 a. 109; 2007 a. 27.
    NOTE: See Chapter 141, laws of 1981, section 2, entitled “Initial applicability.”
    If a defendant is willing to stipulate to being a convicted felon, evidence of the
    nature of the felony is irrelevant if offered only to support the felony conviction element.
    State v. McAllister, 153 Wis. 2d 523, 451 N.W.2d 764 (Ct. App. 1989).
    Failure to give the warning under s. 973.033 does not prevent a conviction under
    this section. State v. Phillips, 172 Wis. 2d 391, 493 N.W.2d 238 (Ct. App. 1992).
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    941.29 CRIMES — PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY Not certified under s. 35.18 (2), stats.
    Electronic reproduction of 2007−08 Wis. Stats. database, updated and current through 2009 Act 39 and August 17, 2009.
    Text from the 2007−08 Wis. Stats. database updated by the Legislative Reference Bureau. Only printed statutes are certified
    under s. 35.18 (2), stats. Statutory changes effective prior to 9−1−09 are printed as if currently in effect. Statutory changes effective
    on or after 9−1−09 are designated by NOTES. Report errors at (608) 266−3561, FAX 264−6948, http://www.legis.
    state.wi.us/rsb/stats.html
    Retroactive application of this provision did not violate the prohibition against ex
    post facto laws because the law is intended not to punish persons for a prior crime but
    to protect public safety. State v. Thiel, 188 Wis. 2d 695, 524 N.W.2d 641 (1994).
    A convicted felon’s possession of a firearm is privileged in limited enumerated circumstances.
    State v. Coleman, 206 Wis. 2d 199, 556 N.W.2d 701 (1996), 95−0917.
    Sub. (2m) is not in the nature of a penalty enhancer, but defines an additional element
    to the crime described in sub. (2). It was proper for the trial court to apply the
    general repeater statute to a violator. State v. Gibson, 2000 WI App 207, 238 Wis.
    2d 547, 618 N.W.2d 248, 99−2612.
    In this section, to possess means that the defendant knowingly has control of a firearm.
    There is no minimum length of time the firearm must be possessed for a violation
    to occur. Intention in handling a firearm is irrelevant unless the handling is privileged
    under s. 939.45. State v. Black, 2001 WI 31, 242 Wis. 2d 126, 624 N.W.2d 363,
    99−0230.
    To determine whether a person has been “convicted of a crime elsewhere that
    would be a felony if committed in this state” under sub. (1) (b), the courts must consider
    the underlying conduct of the out−of−state conviction, not merely the statute
    that was violated. State v. Campbell, 2002 WI App 20, 250 Wis. 2d 238, 642 N.W.2d
    230, 01−0758.
    Article I, s. 25, of the Wisconsin constitution did not effectively repeal this section,
    nor is this section unconstitutionally vague, overbroad, or in violation of the equal
    protection clauses of the United States and Wisconsin constitutions. State v. Thomas,
    2004 WI App 115, 274 Wis. 2d 513, 683 N.W.2d 497, 03−1369.
    While 18 U.S.C. s. 1162(b) prohibits the state from depriving any Indian of any
    right, privilege, or immunity afforded under federal treaty, defendant’s claim that he
    was exercising tribal hunting rights did not prevent the application of this section.
    Application of this section did not make defendant’s exercise of treaty hunting rights
    illegal. Rather, the defendant’s own actions in committing a felony limited him from
    fully enjoying those rights. State v. Jacobs, 2007 WI App 155, 302 Wis. 2d 675, 735
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    I open carry in the woods with a .45 on my thigh. Its not the city but its still open carry
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    As I understand it state laws do not explicitly state that it's legal. It's assumed to be legal because they do not explicitly state that it's illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivonut View Post
    As I understand it state laws do not explicitly state that it's legal. It's assumed to be legal because they do not explicitly state that it's illegal.
    Yep that's my understanding. Not prohibited so legal.
    Maybe there is something here for you. http://opencarry.org/
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    I know I saw it somewhere on this site http://www.legis.state.wi.us/

    I am trying to find it might take a little bit though

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    Wow what a bunch of fuckin idiots:



    There Sheriff there sounds like a real fuck bag.
    All posts from the above author are expected to be 100% BS. Thank you and have a nice day.

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    I open carry my USP .45 every chance I get. Been all over Caledonia; Pick N Save, KMart, Racine Home Depot, etc. I've also done it on the north side at various establishments.

    People glance, but I haven't had any issues. You just have to know what you can and can't do and be confident about it.

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    Yeah. It pretty much kills any type of walk around the neighborhood

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    everytime i hunt its open carry. ive open carried at night when im visiting friends near uwm. id rather be arrested by a cop then mugged.

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    Yeah.. that's giving the rest of us a bad name

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    From what I've understood (correct me if I'm wrong) it is not illegal to carry a gun, as long as it is exposed for everyone to see, providing you are not a convicted felon. Obviously, guns are not permitted in schools or bars. Concealed carry is illegal however, I think we are 1 of 2 states where this is illegal.


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    Pretty much. You forgot a few no carry zones.

    govt buildings
    banks
    1000ft of a school zone UNLESS youre on private property.
    any place that serves alcohol (not just bars)

    Everything you need to know is in the wisconsin forum of opencarry.org

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    Quote Originally Posted by LIL EVO View Post
    Yeah.. that's giving the rest of us a bad name
    by uwm i mean river west area and its only from the house to the car. not like im walking around the block looking for trouble.

    you want to talk giving "us " a bad name talk to the ass hats mugging and shooting people with illegal firearms.

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    Here is a letter from the wisconsin Attorney General Van Hollen.

    http://www.doj.state.wi.us/absoluten...asp?a=1209&z=3

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    Pistols- open carry- transportation of firarm.

    For you guys who normaly open carry, when you are leaving your private property by vehicle and plan on carrying at the location you are driving too, how/where are you keeping the pistol? Trunk? Locked? Unloaded? ect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ Jerome View Post
    Pistols- open carry- transportation of firarm.

    For you guys who normaly open carry, when you are leaving your private property by vehicle and plan on carrying at the location you are driving too, how/where are you keeping the pistol? Trunk? Locked? Unloaded? ect.
    in a softcase in the back seat out of reach unloaded in the holster. i actually was pulled over for having my license plate light out. the officer walked up to my car i gave him my info and informed him that i have a legally owned/ registered firearm in a case in the back seat. he said ," as long as its out of reach nobody should give you any trouble"

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    Quote Originally Posted by That_Guy View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by MurphysLaw88GT View Post
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