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    Some Turbo ?'s

    I want to do a turbo. A friend owns a diesel repair shop
    and can get me a turbo.
    Wich diesel turbo would work good on my 347 and be capable of
    600whp?
    Also was thinking of doing the kit with no intercooler just Methanol Injection. Will that work?
    Also Stainless Steel or Mild Steel Manifolds?
    Wich will hold up better?
    Ceramic coating or Wrap em' ?
    T5 or C4?
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    HX35-40 from a Cummins.

    Methanol injection with out a intercooler on a gas motor would work but it would take a LOT of meth. Running the motor on straight methanol would also work without a intercooler.

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    The Turbo Forums is the place that will answer any questions you may have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2006wrxtr View Post
    I want to do a turbo. A friend owns a diesel repair shop
    and can get me a turbo.
    Wich diesel turbo would work good on my 347 and be capable of
    600whp?
    Also was thinking of doing the kit with no intercooler just Methanol Injection. Will that work?
    Also Stainless Steel or Mild Steel Manifolds?
    Wich will hold up better?
    Ceramic coating or Wrap em' ?
    T5 or C4?
    Thanks, Mike
    I think You can find a nice T4 frame 67mm turbo that would go very nicely on the street with a 347 for 600hp. Power would come on super early and give you the power you're looking for and some. The diesel turbos seem to have a big a/r housing and are standard journal Bearing if i remember correctly

    As for Trans, i dont think a standard t5 is going to like that much power. Eventhough the tq wont be instant it still will make a ton. I could be wrong though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey1226 View Post
    I think You can find a nice T4 frame 67mm turbo that would go very nicely on the street with a 347 for 600hp. Power would come on super early and give you the power you're looking for and some. The diesel turbos seem to have a big a/r housing and are standard journal Bearing if i remember correctly

    As for Trans, i dont think a standard t5 is going to like that much power. Eventhough the tq wont be instant it still will make a ton. I could be wrong though.
    thats why you go with 35/40 hybrid.
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    your 347 will be depandant of two thing,
    1. What is your compression ratio.
    2. 600 WHP that block will be split in half no matter what girlde yo have.


    I have seen guys go 9s with a T70.......

    a T5 trans will not go 9s, even with a G force gear set.

    PA performance makes a lifetime waranty C4 in the 2K range....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70 cutlass 442 View Post
    your 347 will be depandant of two thing,
    1. What is your compression ratio.
    2. 600 WHP that block will be split in half no matter what girlde yo have.


    I have seen guys go 9s with a T70.......

    a T5 trans will not go 9s, even with a G force gear set.

    PA performance makes a lifetime waranty C4 in the 2K range....

    hope that answerews some Qs
    My compression should be around 9.5:1
    I have the 4 bolt Boss block, good to 1k hp with my internals
    Yeah I was thinking 67-70mm
    Found a place down here to do a C4 for me just need to figure out the
    Stall. I have 3.55's ? was thinking around 3k stall

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70 cutlass 442 View Post
    2. 600 WHP that block will be split in half no matter what girlde yo have.




    a T5 trans will not go 9s, even with a G force gear set.

    DEAD wrong on both counts, try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70 cutlass 442 View Post
    your 347 will be depandant of two thing,
    a T5 trans will not go 9s, even with a G force gear set.
    That would be incorrect sir
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK View Post
    DEAD wrong on both counts, try again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stangman98 View Post
    That would be incorrect sir
    Care to prove me wrong? Im not saying that its never been done, but any one knows that a stock block is on barrowed time when your in the HP range, and Ive herd of sevearl people having issues with a G force being dependable at thoes power levels as well..... I have seen stock long blocks go 9s, and stock t5s go 10s, but we all know that is anything but a reliable combo.
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    Well to start with the NMRA Real Street class all uses 5 spds. Most of which are T5
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    I would use a billet 67 or 71mm. Alot of guys making good power out of those. Here's a shop that sells and at a good cost.

    spracingonline.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2006wrxtr View Post
    My compression should be around 9.5:1
    I have the 4 bolt Boss block, good to 1k hp with my internals
    Yeah I was thinking 67-70mm
    Found a place down here to do a C4 for me just need to figure out the
    Stall. I have 3.55's ? was thinking around 3k stall
    id run 3.27's
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    Quote Originally Posted by 70 cutlass 442 View Post
    Care to prove me wrong? Im not saying that its never been done, but any one knows that a stock block is on barrowed time when your in the HP range, and Ive herd of sevearl people having issues with a G force being dependable at thoes power levels as well..... I have seen stock long blocks go 9s, and stock t5s go 10s, but we all know that is anything but a reliable combo.
    First he has a Boss blk enough said.

    Second, people who don't know what they're doing can fuck up a TKO with a stock N/A long blk. I believe Bob Hanlon runs 8's with a T-5 and as Damon said the RS class is just about exclusively T-5s. I know of many 400-650rwhp T-5s that live just fine being raped on the street with proper set up and a decent driver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2006wrxtr View Post
    My compression should be around 9.5:1
    I have the 4 bolt Boss block, good to 1k hp with my internals
    Yeah I was thinking 67-70mm
    Found a place down here to do a C4 for me just need to figure out the
    Stall. I have 3.55's ? was thinking around 3k stall
    http://www.on3performance.com/mustang50.html
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    hmmm.......

    Have you heard anything about those kits? Good/Bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtyKurty View Post
    hmmm.......

    Have you heard anything about those kits? Good/Bad?
    No, but doesn't look like a bad kit for the cash though.
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    Do a search for On3 on turbomustangs.com lots of info. Some good and some not so good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK View Post
    First he has a Boss blk enough said.

    Second, people who don't know what they're doing can fuck up a TKO with a stock N/A long blk. I believe Bob Hanlon runs 8's with a T-5 and as Damon said the RS class is just about exclusively T-5s. I know of many 400-650rwhp T-5s that live just fine being raped on the street with proper set up and a decent driver.
    Oh im sorry, he did not mention he had a BOSS block until AFTER i responded. And you are right about the TKO, we all know they dont like high rev shifts, or reverse burnouts ect. but i also know of a member on this very bord who had issues with Gforce gear sets while runnins 11s. And dont bring up RS class, from the sounds of it this car does not meet to many standards for the RS class, so why use driveline parts that the RS guys are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK View Post
    First he has a Boss blk enough said.

    Second, people who don't know what they're doing can fuck up a TKO with a stock N/A long blk. I believe Bob Hanlon runs 8's with a T-5 and as Damon said the RS class is just about exclusively T-5s. I know of many 400-650rwhp T-5s that live just fine being raped on the street with proper set up and a decent driver.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stangman98 View Post
    Well to start with the NMRA Real Street class all uses 5 spds. Most of which are T5
    RS is also limited to 313 CID, sounds like hes going for a little but more power then the average real street class racer.
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