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    LOL @ lambo owners...

    Trying to talk down the fact that the Diablo used the 300zx headlights in their design and cover the word nissan on the top with a carbon fiber strip.

    http://www.lamborghini-talk.com/vbfo...z-lights-6119/

    Score one for Japanese imports
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    They didn't exactly steal them. Saying they "stole" them is misinformation.

    Either way Diablo>300zx anyway. lol.

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    there are a lot of common parts shared by various manufacturers of both cars, and bikes. the development/tooling/piece costs are typically insanely high for head/tail lamps..so its not that uncommon. you would think that lambo, being a premier exotic would design their own instead of using some econo-box ones

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    I'm sure you can google a million different cars and see a bunch of similar body parts and/or head lights/tail lights.

    To me the G8 kind of looks like an Acura TL from some angles, but maybe its just me.

    G8


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    Quote Originally Posted by Exitspeed View Post
    They didn't exactly steal them. Saying they "stole" them is misinformation.

    Either way Diablo>300zx anyway. lol.
    I never said anything about stealing, also never said the Z was anywhere near the lambo....obviously 2 cars in 2 different leagues which is why i posted this in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deggy Fresh View Post
    I'm sure you can google a million different cars and see a bunch of similar body parts and/or head lights/tail lights.

    To me the G8 kind of looks like an Acura TL from some angles, but maybe its just me.

    G8


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    That's a g8 compared to a TL, show me a Ferrari taking s2000 taillights, covering the HONDA print and putting it on the new modena and then you can prove a point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gottwins? View Post
    I never said anything about stealing, also never said the Z was anywhere near the lambo.
    My bad. I thought you were the guy on the other forum stirring things up.
    Hey guys.
    I have just received information that lamborghini stole the fairlady Z lights for the Diablo (the second series such as in my picture). And it turns out it is true. All I aska is why? Lamborghini is the greatest car manfactuarer in the entire world. They are more then cappable of making there own lights. Look at the gallardo for instance.

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    I wasn't trying to "prove a point". I was just using what seemed to me as an easy example of how all makes and models at least now a days all use similar designs.


    But if you want me to use a "base model car" using "Lux/Exotic" parts....

    How about the JDM Toyota Cavalier using Supra turn signals in front bumper?
    Sure they are both Toyota, but couldn't they of made lights specifically for the JDM Cav?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exitspeed View Post
    They didn't exactly steal them. Saying they "stole" them is misinformation.

    Either way Diablo>300zx anyway. lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by gottwins? View Post
    Trying to talk down the fact that the Diablo used the 300zx headlights in their design and cover the word nissan on the top with a carbon fiber strip.

    http://www.lamborghini-talk.com/vbfo...z-lights-6119/

    Score one for Japanese imports

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exitspeed View Post
    My bad. I thought you were the guy on the other forum stirring things up.
    Nah, he could have approached it from a different angle lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deggy Fresh View Post
    I wasn't trying to "prove a point". I was just using what seemed to me as an easy example of how all makes and models at least now a days all use similar designs.


    But if you want me to use a "base model car" using "Lux/Exotic" parts....

    How about the JDM Toyota Cavalier using Supra turn signals in front bumper?
    Sure they are both Toyota, but couldn't they of made lights specifically for the JDM Cav?
    That still isn't really my point...the supra was not an exotic when it came out at $40k, its a sports car like a corvette, a z, and a 3000gt. You said it yourself...Toyota cavalier and Toyota supra...not toyota cavalier and a Lamborghini.

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    Okay, I'm just misunderstanding you're comparison.

    My bad, carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deggy Fresh View Post
    Okay, I'm just misunderstanding you're comparison.

    My bad, carry on.
    Im just giving credit to the Japanese designers, if koenigsegg took the camaro headlights and covered the chevy name with a piece of carbon fiber im sure the camaro designers deserve some kind of "props", no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gottwins? View Post
    Im just giving credit to the Japanese designers, if koenigsegg took the camaro headlights and covered the chevy name with a piece of carbon fiber im sure the camaro designers deserve some kind of "props", no?
    Alright, now I understand what you are trying to say.

    I agree 100%.

    Sorry I am a little slow from time to time.
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    this conversation stems from a jolopnik article from a few weeks back.

    http://jalopnik.com/tag/what-unexpec...ars-shared%3f/

    I giggled when I saw 4th gen trans-am tail lights on a weinermobile

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    I have no problem with lambo focusing on the performance of the vehicle rather than designing headlights.

    I'm surprised this only came to light now - and I'm sure there are a ton of other parts that aren't worth mentioning or investigating that have been purchased from other manufacturers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PureSound15 View Post
    I have no problem with lambo focusing on the performance of the vehicle rather than designing headlights.
    lol I love how people downplay and say this.

    If I was paying that kind of money I surely would. These are headlights not some kind of gas pedal or cig lighter in the car...its a pretty important piece in the overall design.

    Something on a total different level..imagine having essential body camaro parts on a mustang..ohhh the uproar on both sides there would be...but hey who would care right? as long as the power plant was good.
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    its just like the noble super cars using hyundai sonata lights


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    Quote Originally Posted by gottwins? View Post
    lol I love how people downplay and say this.

    If I was paying that kind of money I surely would. These are headlights not some kind of gas pedal or cig lighter in the car...its a pretty important piece in the overall design.
    It all depends on why you like the car. If you've never had the chance to go for a ride in a Lambo - then sure, you would be concerned about what car the headlights come from.

    Are Nascar fans upset because the body isn't the actual car? That there aren't actually headlights? Of course not - it's about the driver and the race more than it is the headlight itself.

    If I spent $200k+ on a car like that - I'd be more concerned with the fact that it's a world class performance built "supercar"

    I don't know that I'm down playing anything - realistically I think it's the Nissan guys wanting to be able to say that Lamborghini uses their headlights. Who cares?

    It's all about opportunity cost... Why re-engineer something that already works? Do you think Lamborghini, Noble or Lotus want to employ ANOTHER engineer who specializes in optics or buy the tooling needed to produce the lights? No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PureSound15 View Post
    It's all about opportunity cost... Why re-engineer something that already works? Do you think Lamborghini, Noble or Lotus want to employ ANOTHER engineer who specializes in optics or buy the tooling needed to produce the lights? No.
    Your not paying top dollar just for the performance im sorry to let you know this, if that was the case then why is the GTR or the Zr1 a fraction of the price of a new lambo? Your paying for the name and along with the name comes overall engineering and the exotic look.

    Your last paragraph makes no sense, these high end companies hire people specialize in interiors to design even the smallest thing in the inside but its justifiable to cheap out on designing some headlights? LoL


    Cheap and Lamborghini don't belong in the same sentence. They take something they see that's made well enough to put into their super-cars and buy it...for that you have to give credit to the original makers.

    If you designed something and Ferrari took it and put it on their f40, you would be singing a different tune and not just saying that they picked your shit out of a bag because they were to cheap to make for themselves.
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