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    8sec RWD Street Import...why no one?

    As many have seen, there are a good numbers of domestic BCM members that have ran 8sec at least once or twice this year in decently claimed street cars(honestly no one has a true 8sec DAILY DAILY DAILY driven street car...i know we can all agree on that). But in most cases they are considered street cars since the class they race are the STREET CLASS. I'm just curious as to why no one has built a high-powered Street Import RWD or even an AWD. Guessing in the 800-1000whp/ahp!!! That would be cool to see a few fast 8sec street import out in the mix with the 8sec domestics.

    Are we building one.. NO!!! I was debating, but have other plans... really did look into it.... never done anything RWD so the rear-end would've been the biggest obstacle. Was thinking of a 93 civic coupe(stripped and lightened down to say: 2500lb total weight) with a proven 2.0L B-series Vtec pushing 800-850whp on a GT42@45psi. G-Force conterclockwise tranny cost in the neighborhoods of $15K...maybe more! this would be an awesome combo. Maybe one day for sure when I hit the lottery....for sure though one day ... w/o a doubt

    What about supras how come no one has a 8sec to low 9sec supra in WI...shoot there are connections just 2hrs away(SP). I know of only one in town, but may need more seat time to acquire good numbers.

    Usually when one scene goes faster another scene does the same---vice versa. Honestly, it has seem as if the Import scene has cease in Milwaukee/Wisconsin. Hate to say it, but true!!! Am I halting? hell no!!! I'll have pics of my 9sec setup soon. Bullet proof motor near completion. next up to bat is my tranny..... probably going to spend $5K easily just for parts to mod the tranny.
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    I'm guessing the cost $$$.

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    why would you(a shop) be asking why us(regular joe-shmoes) dont spend rediculous amounts of money into a import? Seems like you would be the most capable funding wise, so why not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee View Post
    As many have seen, there are a good numbers of domestic BCM members that have ran 8sec at least once or twice this year in decently claimed street cars(honestly no one has a true 8sec DAILY DAILY DAILY driven street car...i know we can all agree on that).(
    Dude, what do you call Andy's (boss lx) and Bobbys cars....they were driven on the street just about everyday this summer.....and isnt tri's supra in the 8's yet?
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    If you would like to fund one of the RWD imports here on BCM, Im sure they would consider putting a sticker on the car with your shop name on it.

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    Because it takes a lot more than hp/weight to go 8s.

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    It's easy.

    Money/Technology.

    There are what 4/5 8 second and faster V8's on BCM. That's not THAT many.
    how many IMPORT owners are there on here?

    I know there is 3 Supra's in the Wisconsin area that could run deep into the'r if the 9's ever get done.

    There is the RB'd FD RX7 from Green bay that said it WILL go low 9's. There is what a 9/8 second Conquest floating around up north too.

    they will start to come out.

    better question is How many 10 second ANY wheeld drive import is in wisconsin?
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    I know of very few 9-second street imports in Wisconsin. I know of zero street imports in Wisconsin running 8's. Especially ones that are still running, or even owned by the same parties.
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    I think the key word here is "Wisconsin" Thats why.

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    Na. Never ran and not going to. If i want a 8 or 9 sec. supra, it would be a bone stock body looking supra. Parts are tooo fckin expensive for these cars, i dont have much $$$ to wast it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2JZIS-F View Post
    Na. Never ran and not going to. If i want a 8 or 9 sec. supra, it would be a bone stock body looking supra. Parts are tooo fckin expensive for these cars, i dont have much $$$ to wast it.
    says the guy with two really nice high dollar sports cars lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2JZIS-F View Post
    Na. Never ran and not going to. If i want a 8 or 9 sec. supra, it would be a bone stock body looking supra. Parts are tooo fckin expensive for these cars, i dont have much $$$ to wast it.
    couldn't your car run well into the 9's on a Drag radial or slick?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee View Post
    Honestly, it has seem as if the Import scene has cease in Milwaukee/Wisconsin.
    The scene is slowing down around the whole country.

    There are people all over having to sell their cars and companies are going under left and right.

    Where the hell have you been?

    It'll pick back up eventually. But it'll be a couple/few more years I think. I don't know if we'll see another peak like we did in the late 90's again for some time.

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    Id almost have to say that there as many 8 second muscle cars on bcm as there are Imports running 10's.

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    thx for the replies guys... was just bored so thought i can converse a bit with you fellows.

    i'm not doubting anyone's car being a true true true daily driven car since definitions come in different shapes and sizes, but are they driving it right now or better yet last night in the snow storm? get my drift?

    and even if a daily driven 8sec car was running on the streets in the summer time in a true 8sec trim he/she better have lots of race gas. AGAIN DAILY DRIVING---pick up viagra in the morning for later use, pick up groceries at noon, go fishing at lake delavan for 3 hrs(caught nothing but bluegills), cruise delavan strip(haha), cruise to culvers later at night, gun it a bit with a bike(turbo hayabusa) on the interstate, get diapers for girlfriend's babies(not your babies..hehe), head out to bar at 3:00am, pray not to get caught while heading home..and then repeat that almost on a DAILY basis... hmmm!!! that's what i meant as a true daily driven car. maybe some have pulled it off..hats off to anyone that did it.... "just my definition" don't want to step on anyone's ingrown toe...hehe
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    Last edited by Bee; 12-19-2008 at 11:52 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rally_scort View Post
    why would you(a shop) be asking why us(regular joe-shmoes) dont spend rediculous amounts of money into a import? Seems like you would be the most capable funding wise, so why not


    yeah most BCM members don't want to spend it on an import right? yeah you're right. we haven't seen one yet so i can't elaborate with you. good answer....

    nice answer.........nice answer........ummm.... nice answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exitspeed View Post
    The scene is slowing down around the whole country.

    There are people all over having to sell their cars and companies are going under left and right.

    Where the hell have you been?

    It'll pick back up eventually. But it'll be a couple/few more years I think. I don't know if we'll see another peak like we did in the late 90's again for some time.
    been banging in bangcock dude!!! racing there is pretty cool... parts are dirt cheap there...couldn't believe it

    I know it'll pick up.......many shops have gone out of business as evident ... even reg. repair shops have shut down....scary
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    Quote Originally Posted by twicks69 View Post
    I know of very few 9-second street imports in Wisconsin. I know of zero street imports in Wisconsin running 8's. Especially ones that are still running, or even owned by the same parties.
    who are you mentioning? hmmm!!! there was an old school evo in burlington, wi that i could only think of. got 8's once and everyone discredited him...for some reason!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeagZ View Post
    Id almost have to say that there as many 8 second muscle cars on bcm as there are Imports running 10's.
    no way beagle. not that i know of... there are at least 5-6 8sec muscle car around here(could be 7-8 even)....or somewhat associated within bcm or bcm friends.
    10sec imports: me, waldo, tom(550whp civic...not yet very close), simon(550+whp..not yet very close..hehe), EK civic in madison,___________,__________,__________,________ _______ feel free to fill them in.... 3 so far only....late and i'm tired so probably missing a few guys.. you could be right beagle....

    tim and jake are 9sec cars so they don't count.
    Last edited by Bee; 12-20-2008 at 12:03 AM.
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