TFS 2V head!

[Sprayaway Fox]

I guess if someones interested in a new 2V head this ones the ticket for you. Go buy it!.....cause I wont.

[Cjburn]

Pulled off a site, I'll have to go digging for the 2V stuff. Lightning motors in Mustangs means throttle body through the hood. Lightning's heads are EXACTLY the same as your 2V Mustangs. My guess for cost is whatever it costs to go fast for a 4V except you spend less your heads. Bottom ends are the same, you'll just make less because you're limited by flow or by rpm. I'm not saying they're the end all be all for performance but they're kind of like the LT1, the read headed step child in performance aspects. The idea that they're horrible for performance is outdated, guys do make big power through them, but they don't make same hp as 4V stuff, they never will.

[Waver]

well, honestly I would love to have a 4v car, however at the time insurance would of been through the roof as well as being hard to find....on the other hand, for the cost of a s trim with aftercooler, a set of headers (still out on the whole long tube thing) x pipe, and a different plentum and tb (which I believe comes with the sc kit) and I will be at 400hp. that combined with some suspension mods and a gear change (tune included) and I will have just over 400 rwhp I am not going to bitch....less than 5 k into the car and I will be low 12's high 11's
Besides, if you use the engine from an expidition you will never get it under a hood.....you have to spend a lot of cash to get one made for a truck.....plus they make some nice stroker kits for the 2v and power can be had with the 2v engine.

[Irish]

well, honestly I would love to have a 4v car, however at the time insurance would of been through the roof as well as being hard to find....on the other hand, for the cost of a s trim with aftercooler, a set of headers (still out on the whole long tube thing) x pipe, and a different plentum and tb (which I believe comes with the sc kit) and I will be at 400hp. that combined with some suspension mods and a gear change (tune included) and I will have just over 400 rwhp I am not going to bitch....less than 5 k into the car and I will be low 12's high 11's
Besides, if you use the engine from an expidition you will never get it under a hood.....you have to spend a lot of cash to get one made for a truck.....plus they make some nice stroker kits for the 2v and power can be had with the 2v engine.

For 5k you could ditch the whole drivetrain, buy an LS1/M6 dropout and be alot faster with just a cam, intake, injectors, exhaust and tune I am still willing to bet that you'd be under 5k.

LS1/M6 combo 2k
everything to swap it... I am going to go high and say 1k.
That would still leave you with 3k to buy a nice winter beater...LOL

Or for 5k you could buy a foxbody that already runs high 11's...

[Waver]

Mod motor+blower+exhaust= a car that needs that much to keep up witha bolt on fox.

Funny, as how I have beaten a few "bolt on fox" bodys with my almost stock 2v....my 88 had intake, headers, h pipe, muflers, cai, tb, ignition, tune, gears, and underdrives....the 04 has just a cai and mufflers and with just a tune and gears will match the times I hit with the fox (13.5). other than heads and a cam, how much more "bolt on" can you get with a fox with out going into the engine?

[Irish]

Funny, as how I have beaten a few "bolt on fox" bodys with my almost stock 2v....my 88 had intake, headers, h pipe, muflers, cai, tb, ignition, tune, gears, and underdrives....the 04 has just a cai and mufflers and with just a tune and gears will match the times I hit with the fox (13.5). other than heads and a cam, how much more "bolt on" can you get with a fox with out going into the engine?

Did it have the mass air conversion? And by intake did you mean upper and lower or CAI? What was your trap speed at 13.5?

[Waver]

For 5k you could ditch the whole drivetrain, buy an LS1/M6 dropout and be alot faster with just a cam, intake, injectors, exhaust and tune I am still willing to bet that you'd be under 5k.

LS1/M6 combo 2k
everything to swap it... I am going to go high and say 1k.
That would still leave you with 3k to buy a nice winter beater...LOL

Or for 5k you could buy a foxbody that already runs high 11's...

well we both know that I am not going to put a gm engine into my mustang.....I am not scottie k.....

And I agree, for 5500 you can hit high 11's with a fox on the stock engine...hell I had boltons on my fox, and was running 13.5 for about 1500-1700....messed up thing was that the fox was dynoed at the same hp as a stock 2v rwhp (well a little less but not by much)...so with the same cost I can be at the same point with both cars......an s trim with an aftercooler will put the total investment that I had in the fox to about 4000 or so, a good set of heads another 500.......so three hundred less than what I expect to do with the 2v and still hit the same 1/4 mile time and hp......

[Waver]

Did it have the mass air conversion? And by intake did you mean upper and lower or CAI? What was your trap speed at 13.5?

yep, I always forget shit when it comes to mods on that car....and yes a cold air intake=inlet tube that goes from the filter to the intake....that was a fender mount (in the fender like the 04) and it did have a typhoon upper and lower intake on it with intake spacer. so both. The trap speed was 104 with a 1.7 60'

[Irish]

Did it have the mass air conversion? And by intake did you mean upper and lower or CAI? What was your trap speed at 13.5?

You didn't answer my questions Nick....

[Waver]

look above you.....lol now made clearer

[70 cutlass 442]

I think it was his way of showing that more can be had for less...

IDK about necessairly less, i meak i will say the LS1 is deffintaly a better platform, but find me a 00-01 LS1 Camaro for the same price? as a 96-98 mustang lets say, even after we slapped the blower on this car we were still thousdands of dollars ahead, plus in a lighter car

Funny, as how I have beaten a few "bolt on fox" bodys with my almost stock 2v....my 88 had intake, headers, h pipe, muflers, cai, tb, ignition, tune, gears, and underdrives....the 04 has just a cai and mufflers and with just a tune and gears will match the times I hit with the fox (13.5). other than heads and a cam, how much more "bolt on" can you get with a fox with out going into the engine?

hit that 2v with a 200 shot of funny gas and see how it likes it.... my 5.0 loves it

[Waver]

hit that 2v with a 200 shot of funny gas and see how it likes it.... my 5.0 loves it

The botom end maybe........the intake fuck no....not going to take the chance with the plastic intake.......I was saying that baised on NA not with any kind of FI

[Sprayaway Fox]

^^^^^ should be a close race with us, looks like it comes down to the leave. Sounds like a good setup ya got planned. I got a wet kit for my ride but Ill leave my 75 dry same as last year on for the run next year. SPRING 09 GET SUM! lol

[Waver]

^^^^^ should be a close race with us, looks like it comes down to the leave. Sounds like a good setup ya got planned. I got a wet kit for my ride but Ill leave my 75 dry same as last year on for the run next year. SPRING 09 GET SUM! lol

yeah, I think it will be...Fox stangs respond real well to bolt ons where as mod motor cars love boost

[GTSLOW]

point being?

2500 and it would still lose to a stock LS1.

[GTSLOW]

For 5k you could ditch the whole drivetrain, buy an LS1/M6 dropout and be alot faster with just a cam, intake, injectors, exhaust and tune I am still willing to bet that you'd be under 5k.

LS1/M6 combo 2k
everything to swap it... I am going to go high and say 1k.
That would still leave you with 3k to buy a nice winter beater...LOL

Or for 5k you could buy a foxbody that already runs high 11's...

No offense but it would be hard to find an ls1/t56 combo for 2k.

[Waver]

2500 and it would still lose to a stock LS1.

well his numbers are a little low for an s trim....with out aftercooler it will add 106 hp so it will take the stock 2v up to 366 hp at the flywheel so about 336 hp at the rear. With aftercooler it will add 146 hp, so 406hp at the flywheel and 376rwhp....This is on a 100% stock 2v engine, add the normal bolt ons can see up to 460 depending on what you do to it....eigther way, the 2v with a blower should be able to give a stock ls1 a run for its money.

(I know that the ls1 is an awesome engine, but dosnt it have to pull around more weight than any ford v8?)

[Irish]

IDK about necessairly less, i meak i will say the LS1 is deffintaly a better platform, but find me a 00-01 LS1 Camaro for the same price? as a 96-98 mustang lets say, even after we slapped the blower on this car we were still thousdands of dollars ahead, plus in a lighter car



hit that 2v with a 200 shot of funny gas and see how it likes it.... my 5.0 loves it

I know of people picking up 98 camaros that need a waterpump or have some other gremlin for 800-1500... There are deals to be had!

[Irish]

No offense but it would be hard to find an ls1/t56 combo for 2k.

No offense taken!


You can, you just have to be "johnny on the spot" with the cash. I sold my
LS1/M6 for 1900.

There are combos going for 1800 and up on ebay everyday!

[Cjburn]

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