Hot Street Rules 10.20 class. Feed back

[scottie K]

*Exterior.. Must remain stock except.. replacements of fiber glass bumpers,hood ok... NO LEXAN WINDOWS.. sponsor stickers are limited to windows only..

*Interior....Must have full Interior stock dash, and carpet, all seats must be covered door panals must be upholserterd finished look... .. ( ok to remove back seat.. Butt must be carpeted) Must have 2 front seats !!! after market ok.

*All Cars must have full funtioning headlights, tail lights, turn signals ,horn!
will be checked at random.

* All vehicals must Registerd and Lic... ** maybe be asked for registraion at time of tech**

*Suspension... Stock style suspension must mount in factory locations.. After market replacement parts OK... NO MINI TUBS. Or Stretching of panals... **cars not originally equipped with torque arm style suspension may not add them..**IRS equipped vehicles may swap to a solid rear axle
* Coil overs -ok
* may move leafsprings in for tire clearance
* Minor frame notching -ok

*Exhuast-- must have mufflers and exit min by rear axle
*MOTOR COMBOS* ***min weights required****
*** may adjust weights to keep piority ..Will have 1 race notice ..

*Small block N/A 3200 lbs
*Small block power adder 3300 lbs ( single power adder)
** V6 single turbo or Nos 3300
** Mod Motors fall into small block catagory***

*Big block N/A 3300 lbs
*Big block power adder 3400 lbs Plate system only
** No Foggers or turbos on Big block combos**

*Turbo rule .. single Max turbo 70mm inlet with max 76 housing on Small block combos only..will be checked with no go gauge!!!
** No boost controlers**

* Nitrous rule .. single plate systems 1 fuel /1 nos solenoid 1 purge valve
EFI.. max of 2 Nos nozzles 1fuel / 1 Nos solenoid 1 purge valve
** No prgressive Nos Controlers**
** purge solenoid must exit engine compartment
* digisets ok 1 per adder...
* NOS Safty Valve

*** all other stages must be capped off NO!! exceptions!!!

*** Superchargers, facrory whipples, . whipple 2.3L max and kenne belle 2.4L
vortec- up to T-trim
procharger- Up to -D1
paxton - up to novi 2000

** Water meth Injection can be used as Innnercooling ONLY!!!!
- may not be used with innercoolers...

*** No break out boxes, NO Throttle stops ( home made and after market) no electrical devices that control any throttle devices.......... If caught using them DQ'ed for entire yr...

*max tire for 15'' rim is 275 drg radial or 28.10.5 or Et Street 28x12.5
16- DOT tire( drag raidals) or et street
17 drag radial/
18 drag radial/


Crew is limited to 1 person up at the starting line.... besides driver

Lettering/Decals/Logos
TSDRA Sponsorship decals must be displayed on vehicle in order to qualify for points and win payouts. One (1) official TSDRA decal required on each side window.

THESE ARE TENITIVE RULES ... NOT SET IN STONE YET..... TSDRA HAS TO VOTE THEM IN.... I THINK THIS WILL BE CLOSE TO WHAT WERE LOOKING AT

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[Crawlin]

if someone see's something messed up in combo's that don't match, post up. some of you ford guys know those whipple/KB setups better than others in comparison to a t-trim/D1, especially on the '03-'04 Cobras

[Greg@GLD]

When we carpet our butts, do we have a choice as to what kind of carpet or do you mandate shag?

[Smokey1226]

Any chance in a 10.99-11.2 class?

[scottie K]

Any chance in a 10.99-11.2 class?

prob not

[FourEyedFord]

Totally just trying to be helpful here!

I think it may be a little unfair to allow a novi 2000 in a class geared towards 10.20 cars. I know it has a cap, but if the YS/YSi is not allowed then neither should the Novi 2000.

Just my 2 cents.

[scottie K]

Totally just trying to be helpful here!

I think it may be a little unfair to allow a novi 2000 in a class geared towards 10.20 cars. I know it has a cap, but if the YS/YSi is not allowed then neither should the Novi 2000.

Just my 2 cents.

wasnt sure on specs of Novi 2000 ... thanks bobby

[Crawlin]

Thanks Bobby. Like I said, I didnt know what blowers get you where.

Bobby - Should we just allow up to the 1500 then? Or stick with the 1000 as tops?

[BAD LS1]

Clarify the "no boost controllers" plz So just run off what ever wastegate spring you have?? I think thats kind of a bogus thing, every setup needs some sort of waste gate controler.

[juicedimpss]

Clarify the "no boost controllers" plz So just run off what ever wastegate spring you have?? I think thats kind of a bogus thing, every setup needs some sort of waste gate controler.

why is that?

not being a ****,just trying to understand why you ask/say that

[BOSS LX]

I would cap the blowers at 1500 cfm. It is true that a 1500 cfm blower can go way faster then 10.20's, but so can a BB with a plate. (That would be the novi 2000 and the vortech YS trim)

A 1200 cfm blower (vortech T trim, and a novi 1200) could clear the cap in a 3300 lb car, but the car will still be working fairly hard to do so.

IMO the 1000 cfm blowers in a 3300 lb car, will have to be set near kill to make the cap.

[FourEyedFord]

wasnt sure on specs of Novi 2000 ... thanks bobby

Here are some specs and how I would do it if the T-trim is the max:

Paxton Novi-1500 and Smaller
http://www.paxtonauto.com/superchargers_novi_1500.html

Vortech V1 T-Trim (At the bottom) and Smaller
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...s+Supercharger

Procharger D-Series and Smaller
http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml

They all flow in the same ballpark as far as CFM is concerned, 1200-1400. Technically the P-Series would be a better fit with the Paxton/Vortech just looking at flow ratings, but excluding the D-series would leave a lot out. I really don't think you will have any complaints including the D-series though, it is not a huge advantage. (Frankly I think the Vortech and Paxton units have gone faster anyways at this level)

[GRNDNL]

Clarify the "no boost controllers" plz So just run off what ever wastegate spring you have?? I think thats kind of a bogus thing, every setup needs some sort of waste gate controler.

Most of the time that means no in car controller, I'm sure a regulator or bleeder valve mounted in the engine compartment would be fine.....

[FourEyedFord]

I would cap the blowers at 1500 cfm. It is true that a 1500 cfm blower can go way faster then 10.20's, but so can a BB with a plate. (That would be the novi 2000 and the vortech YS trim)

A 1200 cfm blower (vortech T trim, and a novi 1200) could clear the cap in a 3300 lb car, but the car will still be working fairly hard to do so.

IMO the 1000 cfm blowers in a 3300 lb car, will have to be set near kill to make the cap.

I do agree here, too. If you let the big blocks in with NOS, then maybe open up the use of the YSi/Novi 2000/F-1.

Maybe if you have a big block, you can only run N/A? Then you could leave it to the smaller blowers.

[scottie K]

Most of the time that means no in car controller, I'm sure a regulator or bleeder valve mounted in the engine compartment would be fine.....

ding ding... thanks keith

[BOSS LX]

Good point on the D blowers Bobby. So I take it that front mount air-to-air innercoolers are legal?

[FourEyedFord]

Skottie,

As far as the turbos go, do you mean you can run a max of a 76mm wheel, but you can only have a 70mm inlet?

[Crawlin]

Bobby, yes... because of the the availability of those turbo's

like all the borg warner 75mm cheap ones that are on turbomustangs.

[Crawlin]

Good point on the D blowers Bobby. So I take it that front mount air-to-air innercoolers are legal?

that would be legal

[BOSS LX]

Besides the blower cfm, the rules look good to me.