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    Quote Originally Posted by westybenddyno/forest View Post
    correction methanol is an alternate fuel. nos is a power adder in the form of a gas or vapor. methanol is derived from a corn based fuel wich we can buy at the pump. water doesn't add power it only cools like an intercooler.
    and an intercooler does what? oh yeah,allows more boost/timing=power adder
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    Scotty, just plain as day write in the rules that NO fogger on a big block. How hard would that be?

    A 26x8 would be funny, but I think too many people already have the 275 or 28x10.5 type tire setup to have them go buy a whole new set just for this.

    I honestly think if something came out for a class like this, you'd end up getting a TON of entries and the payouts would be bigger than True Street just based on sheer number of entries.

    416cid is gonna be perfectly fine, just can't run a turbo on it, which you aren't anyways.

    Allow BB's in only because you'll get more people coming in.

    I'm with Ron on the no boost controllers or progressive for the nitrous guys.

    I don't think there should be a weight. Most of these cars will still be dedicated race cars. So getting a fox body stang up to 3350 is gonna allow them to be scaling that car and placing weight perfect compared to a full interior F-body or Chevelle/etc....

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    what no working a/c required?that should be the first and foremost requirement j/k
    Quote Originally Posted by Crawlin View Post
    Scotty, just plain as day write in the rules that NO fogger on a big block. How hard would that be?

    A 26x8 would be funny, but I think too many people already have the 275 or 28x10.5 type tire setup to have them go buy a whole new set just for this.

    I honestly think if something came out for a class like this, you'd end up getting a TON of entries and the payouts would be bigger than True Street just based on sheer number of entries.

    416cid is gonna be perfectly fine, just can't run a turbo on it, which you aren't anyways.

    Allow BB's in only because you'll get more people coming in.

    I'm with Ron on the no boost controllers or progressive for the nitrous guys.

    I don't think there should be a weight. Most of these cars will still be dedicated race cars. So getting a fox body stang up to 3350 is gonna allow them to be scaling that car and placing weight perfect compared to a full interior F-body or Chevelle/etc....
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    when i was in mosourri,i watched a true radial tire class.
    rules were stock suspension and a true p275/60 radial tire with 400 minimum treadwear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crawlin View Post

    I don't think there should be a weight. Most of these cars will still be dedicated race cars. So getting a fox body stang up to 3350 is gonna allow them to be scaling that car and placing weight perfect compared to a full interior F-body or Chevelle/etc....
    what about cars with powerplant swaps(rx-7).....now you are talking sub 2800lb cars.
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    i fully agree with ya Ron. I was arguing AGAINST having a rule weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 bad z's View Post
    what no working a/c required?that should be the first and foremost requirement j/k
    There goes all the classic musclecar entries, hahahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crawlin View Post
    There goes all the classic musclecar entries, hahahah
    Naw, only the Race Car Classics.......Street Cars, even the classics all have A/C.......


    I'd be interested with the GN, a V6 would need a 76 turbo and intercooler to run 10.0s on a limited tire in the heat......There's 4 or 5 other Buicks I can think of off hand that might be interested in a class like this......
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottie K View Post
    cool !!! Im shooting to have it figured out by NOV.


    ps its not a bracket race homys hahahahaha


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    Quote Originally Posted by juicedimpss View Post
    and an intercooler does what? oh yeah,allows more boost/timing=power adder
    So your telling me that the intercooler should be considered a power adder? I think turbo cars should be allowed either a intercooler OR Meth injection.

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    You have to allow a T76.

    Make a provision for twins also..... you know... just cause.

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    wait so this isnt bracket racing? Oh snap, ill need a BBF and spray to keep up with some of these cars
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    yep, not a bracket race. you could go 10.00 but have a .600 light, and if someone goes 10.15 but on the .400 light, they'd win since they got there first. just can't beat that 10.00 time.

    i agree pro tree.

    i say pump gas only hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breecher_7 View Post
    So your telling me that the intercooler should be considered a power adder? I think turbo cars should be allowed either a intercooler OR Meth injection.
    and what stops someone from mixing a lil nitro into the alcohol injection? who is going to police that?
    much easier to just run an intercooler
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    Then oxygenated pump gas shouldnt be allowed either because that could be considered a power adder as well. Nitro or not, its still fuel, not a power adder.

    To police it they could make you fill it out of a SEALED container during Tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breecher_7 View Post
    Then oxygenated pump gas shouldnt be allowed either because that could be considered a power adder as well. Nitro or not, its still fuel, not a power adder.

    To police it they could make you fill it out of a SEALED container during Tech.
    will *YOU* race in the class if they allow meth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by juicedimpss View Post
    will *YOU* race in the class if they allow meth?
    I will, thats the only way Im gonna run, Im not going to change my car up just for some race that happens a couple times a year, because mine is an actuall street car, not a race car..... also, I say have the WATER/METH guys fill from windsheild washer bottles that are already at the track, provided by the track crew.... Its not that hard really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicedimpss View Post
    and what stops someone from mixing a lil nitro into the alcohol injection? who is going to police that?
    much easier to just run an intercooler
    I've done that years ago. Didn't work for me at all, just made it ping audibly for the first time ever. Yeah I ran it real rich and did a ton of research. Definitely didn't produce any power gains.

    BTW alcohol injection is not a power adder in any way shape or form. Its just like running race gas. Slows the burn so you can tolerate higher cylinder pressures. A power adder actually introduces significant additional oxygen that wouldn't otherwise be present.

    Try putting an alky kit on an N/A motor sometime and tell me what you get.
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    At this rate only alternative fuel or electric cars will the only ones left to race with all the "technicalities"in fuel that are being pointed out.

    Just cover the basic rules and get it done! Jesus H Christ this isnt NHRA top fuel racing for fucks sake!
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