Operation "replace the clutch" is in motion

**badass88gt** · 05-07-2008, 09:35 PM

You guys with the heavy cars running aluminum flywheels is interesting to me. Ive always been told to do the opposite, thats why I went with steel. I;m curious to see how it works out, for 60' times and how RPMs drop, stuff like that.

**WickedSix** · 05-07-2008, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by badass88gt

You guys with the heavy cars running aluminum flywheels is interesting to me. Ive always been told to do the opposite, thats why I went with steel. I;m curious to see how it works out, for 60' times and how RPMs drop, stuff like that.

may the force be with you...inertia is on your side. For a street driven car i'd stick with steel too. Aluminum is nice for road racing or roundy round... but I would think it'd make a mustang all that much more finicky to drive around town.

Physics ftw

**Reverend Cooper** · 05-07-2008, 09:52 PM

wanna ride in my car,bet you cant tell what it has in it

**WickedSix** · 05-07-2008, 10:26 PM

I don't think I could tell unless I had driven the vehicle with both... I had an aluminum flywheel in my toyota from lc engineering and it revved like a mofo but stop and go was the pits

**Windsors 03 Cobra** · 05-07-2008, 10:34 PM

I need to do a clutch in mine sometime, I want to do it while it still moves.
I will be using a steel flywheel.
Havent decided on a clutch yet.

**badass88gt** · 05-07-2008, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Jimmy MF'ng Johnson!

wanna ride in my car,bet you cant tell what it has in it

I have you jerk. You missed my point.

Wicked expanded on it. As for track results, a friend of mine ran both, he told me which performed better but I forgot.

**badass88gt** · 05-07-2008, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Windsors 03 Cobra

I need to do a clutch in mine sometime, I want to do it while it still moves.
I will be using a steel flywheel.
Havent decided on a clutch yet.

Call Walt at Promotion Powertrain, he will hook you up.

**Syclone0044** · 05-08-2008, 03:12 PM

Great pics TwigBert! Always fun to see some parts destruction.

**ponyride00** · 05-09-2008, 01:29 AM

The tranny isnt bad besides the two top bolts. I have the Spec stage 2. Youll like it.

**Waver** · 05-09-2008, 09:22 AM

Well if you guys need any help putting it back in, I have spent a little bit of time under a mustang or 2 doing whole engine swaps with tranny's ect in foxes (different I know, but how different can they really be?)

**70 cutlass 442** · 05-09-2008, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by badass88gt

You guys with the heavy cars running aluminum flywheels is interesting to me. Ive always been told to do the opposite, thats why I went with steel. I;m curious to see how it works out, for 60' times and how RPMs drop, stuff like that.

with a blower that most likely will not be in issue...

**forest** · 05-09-2008, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by 70 cutlass 442

with a blower that most likely will not be in issue...

+1

**Mr Twigbert** · 05-09-2008, 06:08 PM

***Update***

Lit and I set out today to replace the TOB, pilot bearing, install the flywheel and cluch..

Well, I got called by work and told not to come in till 8 PM so we kept moving forward..

As it sits now everything is in but the exhaust and tranny fluid.. I have to hit up Ford for a new exhaust gasket and hit up Autozone for the tranny fluid..

The day wasn't w/o problems though.. We got the TOB in and started on the pilot bearing.. Well, it didn't want to come out.. We didn't have a puller so the Haynes book said to fill it with grease and take something that is similar size to the hole and hammer it in.. Thus, the grease that was inside would force the bearing out.. Well it didn't

.. So, off to AutoZone I went.. Got there and ran into another problem.. There were three guys working.. 1 guy who seemed less than happy to be there who was helping other customers, 1 guy who clearly had a serious mental handicap and 1 guy who knew less about cars than I do.. Needless to say I got stuck w/ the dumbass who didn't know anything.. Well he helped me just enough to rent the puller but only half of it.. Thus, I left and hit up the local hardware store to purchase a big ass bolt to screw into the end of the puller, which would allow us to beat on the end of it to get it out.. Well I went back to the house and tried my theory.. It didn't work

.. So, Chris hopped in his truck and hit up Advanced Auto and returned with the exact tool we needed.. I was pumped.. I through that motha fuka on and started to crank on it.. Annndddd, the tool broke

.. I was pissed.. Soooo, we hopped back in the car and went back to Advanced to get ANOTHER tool.. I just knew this piece-o-crap would break again so we hit up another AutoZone to see if we can get the slide hammer for the first puller we got.. They had it so back to the house we went.. With in about 5 minutes the bearing was out

.. We start to move forward w/ the flywheel and find out we need to press in the dowels

.. The instructions suggested a vice but I ain't got one of them so back to the store we went.. We hit up Advanced and AutoZone to drop off their tools and a hardware store to get a good size C-clamp.. Got back home and from there things were better.. But sometimes you take 1 step forward and like 6 steps back..

Question: The tranny fill port is on the side of the tranny and I have no idea how to fill it seeing I can't tip a funnel up there to pour it in.. Do I need some sort of hose and pump or can I dump it in the top by the shifter?

Breecher_7 · 05-09-2008, 06:12 PM

Hand pump.......

**Windsors 03 Cobra** · 05-09-2008, 08:34 PM

Dump it in the shifter hole till it comes out the side fill plug, then its full.

Thats sucks what you went thru with the pilot bearing, unless they are chewed up or have 8 million miles on them I usually just throw a dab of grease in there and run em. I have never had the old grease trick work, thankfully I have never broke the 2 finger puller either.

**badass88gt** · 05-09-2008, 09:36 PM

Like they said, either a pump or fill it through the shifter. You can also get a hose from the bottle to the fill plug, but you need a cap like what comes from the gear lube bottles.

**badass88gt** · 05-09-2008, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by 70 cutlass 442

with a blower that most likely will not be in issue...

With a blower I would think its better with a steel flywheel? The steel stores the inertia better than an aluminum, thus keeping the RPMs higher between gears and not allowing them to drop and get out of boost.

**Reverend Cooper** · 05-09-2008, 10:30 PM

^ wrong blower helps get and keep it moving then it revs faster due to being lighter

**STANMAN** · 05-09-2008, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Jimmy MF'ng Johnson!

hopefully he says a centerforce dual friction and a firdanza flywheel aluminum of course

He can't copy everything us S197 guys do, can he????

**STANMAN** · 05-09-2008, 10:44 PM

Also, FWIW, I run an aluminum flywheel with no driveability problems around town

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