RSD may 16th

[michelle]

go back to your home on whore island!

<3 you too Joel. (:

[Crawlin]

slo.....

i forgot you had a bike. i didn't see it down in your signature. i'm down for that. two newbies on the track, hahaha. i'm going to look for leathers today and see if anything can get here, but like it's been said... i think we'd be rushing for it to rain on us anyways. and all next week just looks like crap too.

[Crawlin]

never have been, and never will be suprised by a neon at a light. well maybe if i'm in my daily driver ImpSS, but then again, like you said, 2400lb neon vs 4000lb impala, whadda ya expect.

we ALL know, that you can make a 4cyl fast. even if it's all motor. but what do you expect when you talk about what it SHOULD do and haven't had it at the track. I don't care what it SHOULD/WOULD/COULD/CAN do. Just what it DOES. He should dial it back a little bit on the speaking and maybe people would be more receptive.

[Waver]

its power to weight ratio you guys, and the number of cylinders will not make it magically go faster as most of you seem

Neon srts can be fast, I am not going to deny that, however anything can be made to go fast, from a metro to a Firebird. Look at it this way. What did you spend on your Srt to make it go as fast as it does, then look at how much less I have to spend on my 04 Mustang to make it run the same time....As a result, I cant justify spending as much as I paid for my Mustang on a Srt (neon as I refer to it) for that very reason........like I said, any car can go fast, just depends on how deep your pockets are.

I think what he's trying to say is this:

People like to hate on the Neons (SRT-4). There really is no good reason for it, just general hating. Out of the box they run low 14s to high 13s with a decent driver. That is very similar to a new stang, and a little quicker than the old 5.0s (in stock form). Some Neon owners feel frustrated that they are looked down upon for their choice in automobile.

I think that a lot of the hate that is generated towards Neons (srt-4) is because of the attitude of the owners. The whole "my car is the worlds greatist car and it is the fastest thing on two wheels, and dont call it a Neon as it is better than a neon." Well fact of the matter is, any way you look at it, it is still a neon, I dont care what you call it. Srt-4 is just a trim level designation, not a seperate car line all together....take out that turbo engine, and what do you got.......a riced out neon. We dont look down at turtle for liking neons, and hell we give him respect for what he has done with his, however he dosnt think that his car is the car to end all....he likes it because it is different, and he is pulling better numbers at RA than most SRT owners.........think about it, attitude is everything..........

[sloLs1]

slo.....

i forgot you had a bike. i didn't see it down in your signature. i'm down for that. two newbies on the track, hahaha. i'm going to look for leathers today and see if anything can get here, but like it's been said... i think we'd be rushing for it to rain on us anyways. and all next week just looks like crap too.

im not a noobie... lets put it this way... a '05 r1 from the factory bone stock no adjusting suspension or anything runs a 10.50 at 138... when i had mine i was running consistant 10.42 at 139! so i am i geuss faster than the road and track tester guy! and with my near stock '02 f4i... i was running 11.00 at 120... so we'll see how it goes... you have a few more cc's on me though!

[Crawlin]

well, then even better. i'll get beat by a lesser cc bike hahahaha

no amount of power can make up for the newbie ness, hahaha.

still gotta pray that it doesn't rain

[juicedimpss]

im not a noobie... lets put it this way... a '05 r1 from the factory bone stock no adjusting suspension or anything runs a 10.50 at 138... when i had mine i was running consistant 10.42 at 139! so i am i geuss faster than the road and track tester guy! and with my near stock '02 f4i... i was running 11.00 at 120... so we'll see how it goes... you have a few more cc's on me though!

ill need more land from you than i will from chris.

[KARKRAFT]

Neon srts can be fast, I am not going to deny that, however anything can be made to go fast, from a metro to a Firebird. Look at it this way. What did you spend on your Srt to make it go as fast as it does, then look at how much less I have to spend on my 04 Mustang to make it run the same time....As a result, I cant justify spending as much as I paid for my Mustang on a Srt (neon as I refer to it) for that very reason........like I said, any car can go fast, just depends on how deep your pockets are.

I think you'd be surprised at how little it took to get my car to go bottom half 11s last year. I did it with a lot of stock parts. This year, I'm spending a wad of cash and probably not going to get all that much faster...so yeah you're right.


I think that a lot of the hate that is generated towards Neons (srt-4) is because of the attitude of the owners. The whole "my car is the worlds greatist car and it is the fastest thing on two wheels, and dont call it a Neon as it is better than a neon." Well fact of the matter is, any way you look at it, it is still a neon, I dont care what you call it. Srt-4 is just a trim level designation, not a seperate car line all together....take out that turbo engine, and what do you got.......a riced out neon. We dont look down at turtle for liking neons, and hell we give him respect for what he has done with his, however he dosnt think that his car is the car to end all....he likes it because it is different, and he is pulling better numbers at RA than most SRT owners.........think about it, attitude is everything..........

Like every car we have our tards. To be honest my favorite group of people to run into at an RSD is 20 something year old guys who just picked up there cobra/ls1 and think it's the shiznit and think there is no way a Neon can beat em... And trust me when I say I know exactly what you're saying about Neon owners. A large majority of them are kids that didn't earn the car and really know nothing about it or other cars in general.


[QUOTE=Crawlin;378763]never have been, and never will be suprised by a neon at a light. well maybe if i'm in my daily driver ImpSS, but then again, like you said, 2400lb neon vs 4000lb impala, whadda ya expect.

we ALL know, that you can make a 4cyl fast. even if it's all motor. but what do you expect when you talk about what it SHOULD do and haven't had it at the track. I don't care what it SHOULD/WOULD/COULD/CAN do. Just what it DOES. He should dial it back a little bit on the speaking and maybe people would be more receptive.[/QUOTE]


Not sure what a base model Neon weighs, but mine weighed 2900 stock.

My car should run high 6s this year..............................in the eighth.
And yes it's much better to say what the car has done or proven at the track rather than what you think it will do. That's why you won't catch me talking to much smack yet. My car is in pieces so it'll only go as fast as I can push it.

[scaleracer]

I think what he's trying to say is this:

People like to hate on the Neons (SRT-4). There really is no good reason for it, just general hating. Out of the box they run low 14s to high 13s with a decent driver. That is very similar to a new stang, and a little quicker than the old 5.0s (in stock form). Some Neon owners feel frustrated that they are looked down upon for their choice in automobile. I on the other hand, I somewhat enjoy being "hated" on. If somebody is bothered enough by the fact that I drive a Neon and it's kinda quick, then obviously I'm doing something right. And yes, most V8 cars are cheaper to mod, and they have the "right" sound etc...but that's fine. I happen to like my Neon and the way I see it, if I can get this 153 cubic inch front wheel drive turd into the 10 second range, just imagine what I'll be able to do when I put all my effort into a "real" car.

With all that said...My block should be back from the machine shop tommorrow.

Agreed with the first part! I guess if you have the money go for it! I have nothing against neons etc.. i think it's impressive to see them go 10's!

ALL i got out of your response was your not even old enough to drive

you don't even know me! but i will correct you i am old enough to drive i'm 16! i just can't get my license till i'm 18 (because i'm getting home schooled this year)

[1siksrt]

Neon srts can be fast, I am not going to deny that, however anything can be made to go fast, from a metro to a Firebird. Look at it this way. What did you spend on your Srt to make it go as fast as it does, then look at how much less I have to spend on my 04 Mustang to make it run the same time....As a result, I cant justify spending as much as I paid for my Mustang on a Srt (neon as I refer to it) for that very reason........like I said, any car can go fast, just depends on how deep your pockets are.


Well I paid $15999 for mine and have way less than 10k into it and put 450 to the wheels not to shabby... Without a doubt any car can be fast with $$$$...


I think that a lot of the hate that is generated towards Neons (srt-4) is because of the attitude of the owners. The whole "my car is the worlds greatist car and it is the fastest thing on two wheels, and dont call it a Neon as it is better than a neon." Well fact of the matter is, any way you look at it, it is still a neon, I dont care what you call it. Srt-4 is just a trim level designation, not a seperate car line all together....take out that turbo engine, and what do you got.......a riced out neon. We dont look down at turtle for liking neons, and hell we give him respect for what he has done with his, however he dosnt think that his car is the car to end all....he likes it because it is different, and he is pulling better numbers at RA than most SRT owners.........think about it, attitude is everything..........

I totally accept that i drive a neon and the Srt trim is far from riced out man.

I have never once said my car is the greatest or fastest. IF you do your research you will see actually i have given props to many other cars in our community... Including kevin for what they HAVE done....

I initially posted my thread showing my only track time 13.0@118mph(before a tune, on stock street tires) and got ripped into hard... Everyone said dont talk until it does something, etc... well now i dynoed it and got pretty decent #'s and still get shit.


I have payed for every dime of my car and parts. I work a full time and part time job and go to college. Im not some punk mustang/civic/camaro/srt owner whos mommy and daddy buy his shit. Because every car group has the same dumbass!!!

[juicedimpss]

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I initially posted my thread showing my only track time 13.0@118mph(before a tune, on stock street tires) and got ripped into hard... Everyone said dont talk until it does something, etc... well now i dynoed it and got pretty decent #'s and still get shit.

your car isnt the only one on the board that dynoed nice numbers but hasnt put numbers to the track yet.

[sloLs1]

ill need more land from you than i will from chris.

i like to play catch up!

well, then even better. i'll get beat by a lesser cc bike hahahaha

no amount of power can make up for the newbie ness, hahaha.

still gotta pray that it doesn't rain

agreed

[spindler27]

Neon srts can be fast, I am not going to deny that, however anything can be made to go fast, from a metro to a Firebird. Look at it this way. What did you spend on your Srt to make it go as fast as it does, then look at how much less I have to spend on my 04 Mustang to make it run the same time....As a result, I cant justify spending as much as I paid for my Mustang on a Srt (neon as I refer to it) for that very reason........like I said, any car can go fast, just depends on how deep your pockets are.


I think that a lot of the hate that is generated towards Neons (srt-4) is because of the attitude of the owners. The whole "my car is the worlds greatist car and it is the fastest thing on two wheels, and dont call it a Neon as it is better than a neon." Well fact of the matter is, any way you look at it, it is still a neon, I dont care what you call it. Srt-4 is just a trim level designation, not a seperate car line all together....take out that turbo engine, and what do you got.......a riced out neon. We dont look down at turtle for liking neons, and hell we give him respect for what he has done with his, however he dosnt think that his car is the car to end all....he likes it because it is different, and he is pulling better numbers at RA than most SRT owners.........think about it, attitude is everything..........

you can legitamately put $2500 into one and be in the 11's, that is no lie, budget turbo kit, injectors, piggyback and slicks, its been done countless times, you put $2500 into that stang and it might be a mid 12(not counting the bottle)


how many times do you idiots have to hear one of us admit it's a neon for you to stop saying that? honestly you guys, ricky kevin and i all admit it, look at my fvcking sig

and about the 04 mustang, i had two friends with those a couple years back, both cars had an xpipe, catback, intake, tb and plenum and UD pulleys,both ran 14.0 all day long, couldn't hit a 13 to save their lives, now how much does that cost? keep in mind the quickest bone stock srt ran a 13.6, so we put that 1500 or so into ours and its not even close

[spindler27]

and by the way everyone, ricky made it to the track tonight, i'm not going to post what he ran, i'll let him do it

[Waver]

you can legitamately put $2500 into one and be in the 11's, that is no lie, budget turbo kit, injectors, piggyback and slicks, its been done countless times, you put $2500 into that stang and it might be a mid 12(not counting the bottle)

Incorrect, I can throw 2000 at the car and get just a budget turbo setup, another 190 on gears, and spend 300 on tuning and i can run in the 11's easily. Coop ran 12.1 on just a blower with low boost, Greg@gld ran 12.9 on a stock mach 1, hell I had less than a grand stuck into a 2500 88 mustang and ran a 13.5, throw another 1500 at it and that car would of been in the 11's as well......

how many times do you idiots have to hear one of us admit it's a neon for you to stop saying that? honestly you guys, ricky kevin and i all admit it, look at my fvcking sig

I am going to respond to that with another question, how many times do we have to remind you Neon SRT owners that it is still a ******* neon before you stop calling it just an srt.........that is like saying that a gli is more than a jetta, or a zx2 is more than an escort.

and about the 04 mustang, i had two friends with those a couple years back, both cars had an xpipe, catback, intake, tb and plenum and UD pulleys,both ran 14.0 all day long, couldn't hit a 13 to save their lives, now how much does that cost? keep in mind the quickest bone stock srt ran a 13.6, so we put that 1500 or so into ours and its not even close

then I guess they cant drive them for shit.......the mod motor cars love to rev, when you mod them you should get them tuned, and respond very well to a CAI, Xpipe, headers, Mufflers, gears, and a tune........that right there should put them into the mid 13's.......and that is just with a stock 2v gt, not the best engine that was available in 04......The fastest mach 1 (4v motor) that I know of was owned by greg@gld and ran a 12.9 and the 04 cobra should be able to hit that same time with an average driver.........a hell of a lot faster than your boosted neon........

Wanna keep on going, I can go on all day, hell I have experience with several turbo 4's including one that was made by mopar, and then I grew up.....

[Waver]

I totally accept that i drive a neon and the Srt trim is far from riced out man.

yea it is....look at the body kit, the spoiler, the fake dual exhaust.............

I have never once said my car is the greatest or fastest. IF you do your research you will see actually i have given props to many other cars in our community... Including kevin for what they HAVE done....

Forgive me for not knowing this.....not that I care

I initially posted my thread showing my only track time 13.0@118mph(before a tune, on stock street tires) and got ripped into hard... Everyone said dont talk until it does something, etc... well now i dynoed it and got pretty decent #'s and still get shit.

Well first off, everyone who is posting in this thread has done 11's or better, so that is what they mean by dont talk shit unless you can do better than a 13.........it happens to every one with a "slow" car, not that 13's is exactally slow. As far as your dyno numbers, it really dosnt mean shit unless you have a track time to back it up. Look at poncho dan....his gto makes impressive power, but, alas, he still runs the same time he did stock, and he has at least 100 more hp than stock.

I have payed for every dime of my car and parts. I work a full time and part time job and go to college. Im not some punk mustang/civic/camaro/srt owner whos mommy and daddy buy his shit. Because every car group has the same dumbass!!!

Glad to hear that, however every group that I have ever been in or involved usually finds a way to weed out those dumbasses ......but then again that is not what this thread is about...

[1siksrt]

Incorrect, I can throw 2000 at the car and get just a budget turbo setup, another 190 on gears, and spend 300 on tuning and i can run in the 11's easily. Coop ran 12.1 on just a blower with low boost, Greg@gld ran 12.9 on a stock mach 1, hell I had less than a grand stuck into a 2500 88 mustang and ran a 13.5, throw another 1500 at it and that car would of been in the 11's as well......


I am going to respond to that with another question, how many times do we have to remind you Neon SRT owners that it is still a ******* neon before you stop calling it just an srt.........that is like saying that a gli is more than a jetta, or a zx2 is more than an escort.

then I guess they cant drive them for shit.......the mod motor cars love to rev, when you mod them you should get them tuned, and respond very well to a CAI, Xpipe, headers, Mufflers, gears, and a tune........that right there should put them into the mid 13's.......and that is just with a stock 2v gt, not the best engine that was available in 04......The fastest mach 1 (4v motor) that I know of was owned by greg@gld and ran a 12.9 and the 04 cobra should be able to hit that same time with an average driver.........a hell of a lot faster than your boosted neon........

Wanna keep on going, I can go on all day, hell I have experience with several turbo 4's including one that was made by mopar, and then I grew up.....

HMMM, this is funny because a guy just ran a 11.7@120mph in a SRT neon w/ less than $1500 invested.... Once again its a pissing match and you need to get off your mighty Mustang's rule pedestol, You obviously believe that mustang is the greatest car ever invented...

[ponyride00]

You should easily run 11s then with the HP you have. This is why I rarely come on here any more. To much pissing and moaning. Any mod motor mustang that runs a 14.0 with the mods you guys mentioned cant drive at all. I have respect for SRT 4s because a lot of them are fast. If I was making 450hp or whatever your making and I wasnt in the mid to low 11s Id probably sell my car.

[FASTZ2895]

you can legitamately put $2500 into one and be in the 11's, that is no lie, budget turbo kit, injectors, piggyback and slicks, its been done countless times, you put $2500 into that stang and it might be a mid 12(not counting the bottle)


how many times do you idiots have to hear one of us admit it's a neon for you to stop saying that? honestly you guys, ricky kevin and i all admit it, look at my fvcking sig

and about the 04 mustang, i had two friends with those a couple years back, both cars had an xpipe, catback, intake, tb and plenum and UD pulleys,both ran 14.0 all day long, couldn't hit a 13 to save their lives, now how much does that cost? keep in mind the quickest bone stock srt ran a 13.6, so we put that 1500 or so into ours and its not even close

WHAT DID YOU EXPECT....YOU TALKING ABOUT FORD SLOW AZZ MUSTANG
MUSTANG ARE JUST A BRICK WITH WHEELS

[juicedimpss]

you can legitamately put $2500 into one and be in the 11's, that is no lie, budget turbo kit, injectors, piggyback and slicks, its been done countless times, you put $2500 into that stang and it might be a mid 12(not counting the bottle)

why is everyone so quick to dismiss the bottle????
it is no different than ANY other power adder,other than its initial cost.
(being significantly cheaper)
after all,thats what the discussion became,right? cheap power...????


what would a neon run with bolt ons and a shot?