FS: Dual purpose Welder

[350-Z28]

I have a Clarke 180 EN dual purpose (mig/flux core) welder for sale with a grand total of 20 hours or less on it. It comes with it's welding cart and the mig set up, right now its set for flux core. Welder works great, its 220 single phase. You can use miller tips and possibly spools too, i haven't tried but i had heard rumors you could. I'm asking $600 for everything and taking a loss.

[350-Z28]

anyone? price is negotiable $550?

[stock?]

i bought mine new for less than that with the cart, a face, shield, two spools of wire and some tips.
sorry man. hell i think harbor freight sells them for less than that dont they?

[350-Z28]

not really i paid about $700 new

[350-Z28]

Alright this crap needs to go $500 with everything

[stock?]

for those of you needing a welder i can speak from exp that this is a great welder you can do everything from exhaust to quarters correct me if i am wrong but you get a spot welding attachment with this. it is flux/or gas friendly and is a snap to use.
even if you have no welding exp you can use this welder, if you can point and squeeze a trigger you can weld.
i love welding so much i will show you how to weld if you just pm me.
once you learn how to weld you can build anything!!! hell you can fix your cracked aluminum head or manifold, put in a roll bar make your own exhaust etc etc the possibilities are endless. if i had the damn money i would by it.

no i dont know this guy he has not promissed me anything. my offer only lasts one week from this post!.

[pOrk]

Fixes Cracked aluminum head's? Your saying this welder can weld aluminum? HAHAHAHA!!!

for those of you needing a welder i can speak from exp that this is a great welder you can do everything from exhaust to quarters correct me if i am wrong but you get a spot welding attachment with this. it is flux/or gas friendly and is a snap to use.
even if you have no welding exp you can use this welder, if you can point and squeeze a trigger you can weld.
i love welding so much i will show you how to weld if you just pm me.
once you learn how to weld you can build anything!!! hell you can fix your cracked aluminum head or manifold, put in a roll bar make your own exhaust etc etc the possibilities are endless. if i had the damn money i would by it.

no i dont know this guy he has not promissed me anything. my offer only lasts one week from this post!.

[stock?]

yes it is called a change of wire and the gas. if you dont know about welding dont comment please i have 14 years exp including the military and specialty schools ah hahahahaha

[pOrk]

Surrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre

[stock?]

mig welder is a mig welder you can run it straight or reverse polarity. you can run flux core (no gas) or solid wire with a shielding gas. if it is steel usually people use co2 or a mix. all you need for aluminum is the wire and i like to use helium myself. feel free to look it up it is not top secret info. i can appreciate you opinion but usually you should know what you are talking about first but hey this is america, feel free.
man i have been welding for almost three quarters of your life... crap i am old!

[stock?]

here you go pOrk straight from lincoln welding supply

Gas-metal-arc-welding:
Base-metal preparation: To weld aluminum, operators must take care to clean the base material and remove any aluminum oxide and hydrocarbon contamination from oils or cutting solvents. Aluminum oxide on the surface of the material melts at 3,700 F while the base-material aluminum underneath will melt at 1,200 F. Therefore, leaving any oxide on the surface of the base material will inhibit penetration of the filler metal into the workpiece.
To remove aluminum oxides, use a stainless-steel bristle wire brush or solvents and etching solutions. When using a stainless-steel brush, brush only in one direction. Take care to not brush too roughly: rough brushing can further imbed the oxides in the work piece. Also, use the brush only on aluminum work-don't clean aluminum with a brush that's been used on stainless or carbon steel. When using chemical etching solutions, make sure to remove them from the work before welding.
To minimize the risk of hydrocarbons from oils or cutting solvents entering the weld, remove them with a degreaser. Check that the degreaser does not contain any hydrocarbons.

Preheating: Preheating the aluminum workpiece can help avoid weld cracking. Preheating temperature should not exceed 230 F-use a temperature indicator to prevent overheating. In addition, placing tack welds at the beginning and end of the area to be welded will aid in the preheating effort. Welders should also preheat a thick piece of aluminum when welding it to a thin piece; if cold lapping occurs, try using run-on and run-off tabs.

The push technique: With aluminum, pushing the gun away from the weld puddle rather than pulling it will result in better cleaning action, reduced weld contamination, and improved shielding-gas coverage.

Travel speed: Aluminum welding needs to be performed "hot and fast." Unlike steel, the high thermal conductivity of aluminum dictates use of hotter amperage and voltage settings and higher weld-travel speeds. If travel speed is too slow, the welder risks excessive burnthrough, particularly on thin-gage aluminum sheet.

Shielding Gas: Argon, due to its good cleaning action and penetration profile, is the most common shielding gas used when welding aluminum. Welding 5XXX-series aluminum alloys, a shielding-gas mixture combining argon with helium - 75 percent helium maximum - will minimize the formation of magnesium oxide.

Welding wire: Select an aluminum filler wire that has a melting temperature similar to the base material. The more the operator can narrow-down the melting range of the metal, the easier it will be to weld the alloy. Obtain wire that is 3/64- or 1/16- inch diameter. The larger the wire diameter, the easier it feeds. To weld thin-gage material, an 0.035-inch diameter wire combined with a pulsed-welding procedure at a low wire-feed speed - 100 to 300 in./min - works well.

Convex-shaped welds: In aluminum welding, crater cracking causes most failures. Cracking results from the high rate of thermal expansion of aluminum and the considerable contractions that occur as welds cool. The risk of cracking is greatest with concave craters, since the surface of the crater contracts and tears as it cools. Therefore, welders should build-up craters to form a convex or mound shape. As the weld cools, the convex shape of the crater will compensate for contraction forces.

Power-source selection: When selecting a power source for GMAW of aluminum, first consider the method of transfer -spray-arc or pulse.
Constant-current (cc) and constant-voltage (cv) machines can be used for spray-arc welding. Spray-arc takes a tiny stream of molten metal and sprays it across the arc from the electrode wire to the base material. For thick aluminum that requires welding current in excess of 350 A, cc produces optimum results.
Pulse transfer is usually performed with an inverter power supply. Newer power supplies contain built-in pulsing procedures based on and filler-wire type and diameter. During pulsed GMAW, a droplet of filler metal transfers from the electrode to the workpiece during each pulse of current. This process produces positive droplet transfer and results in less spatter and faster follow speeds than does spray-transfer welding. Using the pulsed GMAW process on aluminum also better-controls heat input, easing out-of-position welding and allowing the operator to weld on thin-gage material at low wire-feed speeds and currents.

Wire feeder: The preferred method for feeding soft aluminum wire long distances is the push-pull method, which employs an enclosed wire-feed cabinet to protect the wire from the environment. A constant-torque variable-speed motor in the wire-feed cabinet helps push and guide the wire through the gun at a constant force and speed. A high-torque motor in the welding gun pulls the wire through and keeps wire-feed speed and arc length consistent.
In some shops, welders use the same wire feeders to deliver steel and aluminum wire. In this case, the use of plastic or Teflon liners will help ensure smooth, consistent aluminum-wire feeding. For guide tubes, use chisel-type outgoing and plastic incoming tubes to support the wire as close to the drive rolls as possible to prevent the wire from tangling. When welding, keep the gun cable as straight as possible to minimize wire-feed resistance. Check for proper alignment between drive rolls and guide tubes to prevent aluminum shaving.
Use drive rolls designed for aluminum. Set drive-roll tension to deliver an even wire-feed rate. Excessive tension will deform the wire and cause rough and erratic feeding; too-little tension results in uneven feeding. Both conditions can lead to an unstable arc and weld porosity.

Welding guns: Use a separate gun liner for welding aluminum. To prevent wire chaffing, try to restrain both ends of the liner to eliminate gaps between the liner and the gas diffuser on the gun.
Change liners often to minimize the potential for the abrasive aluminum oxide to cause wire-feeding problems.
Use a contact tip approximately 0.015 inch larger than the diameter of the filler metal being used - as the tip heats, it will expand into an oval shape and possibly restrict wire feeding. Generally, when a welding current exceeds 200 A use a water-cooled gun to minimize heat buildup and reduce wire-feeding difficulties.

you can use the same liner that you use for steel but it is up to you

[LIL EVO]

What does it need to add gas? Can you just plug the line in or does it need something internally?

[pOrk]

here you go pOrk straight from lincoln welding supply

I wasn't able to do it with that machine, I'm telling you from expierence. That is a general description of how you do it with a machine that is capable of it. I'm not going to cloud this for sale thread with this non-sence since I suck at arguing, I dont think this unit is capable of welding heads.

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Clarke® 180EN 220 Volt 180 Amp (No Gas or Gas) Mig Welder
High Quality for years of dependable service.

Solid state electronic heat control with large PC board for better wire speed control.
Weld steel, aluminum, stainless, copper and cast, requires correct wire and gas.
Operates from standard 220 VAC.
Automatic thermal safety switch prevents overload.
Mig gun with full On / Off safety control.
Mig Gun is non-live with built in gas shut off.
Fan Cooled.
Complete with mig gun, ground lead, gas hose, starter spool of flux core wire and instruction video.
Requires WE6540 regulator for gas use, not included.
Uses 2 lb. - 4" and 11 lb. - 8" spools - carbon steel, copper, stainless and nickel.
Uses 2 lb. - 4" and 11 lb. - 8" spools - flux core 71TGS.
Uses 1 lb. - 4" and 5 lb. - 8" spools - aluminum .030 5356.
Simple to operate and portable.


Weight: 64 lbs
Max Amps: 180
Min Amps: 30
Heat Settings: Six
Max Open-Circuit Voltage: 30
Variable wire feed control 0 - 700 IPM
On / Off switch
+ / - Polarity control.
Fan Cooled
Thermal Safety Switch
Wire sizes: .023 - .035
Circuit Breaker Req: 25 amps
Input voltage: 220 VAC
Phase: Single
Duty Cycle: 20% at 100% output
Duty Cycle: 30% at 85% output
Max Metal Thickness: 1/4"
10/2 - Year Limited Welder Warranty

Warranty Details



GAME OVER MAN GAME OVER!!!!! ROOKIE

[stock?]

What does it need to add gas? Can you just plug the line in or does it need something internally?

having owned one i will tell you. it has a line out of the back that you can use to attach to a tank. now you will need a regulator to monitor gas flow but that is easy to get. if you dont want gas no problem (on steel) use flux core it is not as easy as using gas but easy none the less.

[350-Z28]

Good news! I found the regulator to go with it. $500 takes everything regulator cart helmet wire etc...

[LIL EVO]

I have a tank and regulator, the description implied that some type of internal regulator or solenoid was needed

[350-Z28]

hmmm i'll look into it

[stock?]

I have a tank and regulator, the description implied that some type of internal regulator or solenoid was needed

nope the only one you need is the one on the tank thats it. because the one on the tank regulates the gas flow. you might be thinking about when you pull the trigger there is a switch that alows the gas to flow but in no way regulates it.

this welder can also use wire as small as .23 up to .35 size wire all you have to do is flip the wheel.

i mean this thing goes up to 180 amps so you can weld up to 1/4" with this thing. my offer still stands too