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    NOOB here.
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    4.7's rip, they are better than the 360 IMO. I know a guy that had a 2002 4.7, 5-speed. 3.92 anti-spin, intake and exhaust... dakota that ran mid 14s on street tires, and 14.3s on old ass circle track slicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgcntry72
    The Cherokee (XJ) stopped being made in 2001.
    I had a quick(er) 1999 model, but it had built axles, 4.88 gearing, and lots of crap strapped to the inline-6 tractor motor.
    The Grand Cherokee started in 1993.
    The 5.9 Limited was only made in 1998 and the weak point is the Dana 44 rear, which has an aluminum center section that is known to flex, crack, and secure a boat in the harbor.
    The 4.7 HO is known as the 'baby Hemi', and is the bridge from the old tech to the new.
    Not a bad motor, but a 4.7 HO Grand with stock gearing and an intake will not get out of the 15s.
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    Now for '93-'97 Grand Cherokees You had two available motors and two different 4-Wheel Drive Systems, the Motors were the 4.0L I6 and the 5.2L V8, 4-Wheel drive systems were Selec-Trac and Quadra-Trac, and down south there was a 2-Wheel Drive option. With the 4.0L I6 you also could get a 5-Speed manual transmission (rare), otherwise it was normally backed by an automatic transmission.

    '98 You normally had the 4.0L I6 or the 5.2L V8, but in the Limited you could also get the 5.9L. They still carried the same 4-Wheel Drive Systems

    '99-'04 Available motors were the 4.7L V8, 4.7L V8 HO, and 4.0L I6.. And for 4-Wheel drive Systems I believe you had Selec-Trac, Quadra-Trac II, and Quadra-Drive with 2WD as an option down south.

    I could be wrong in some of this, but this is just off the top of my head...
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    There was a 360 grand cherokee in the early 90's too. TSI I believe

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    Quoted From Edmunds.com About the 1997 & 1998 Model Year Grand Cherokee:

    "After all that happened in 1996, 1997 saw but a handful of changes. Chief among them was the availability of the V8 engine for two-wheel-drive Grand Cherokees and the six-cylinder engine's qualification as a transitional low-emission vehicle (TLEV) in California. The antilock braking system was refined for smoother operation, the base stereo was upgraded, carpet quality was improved and some new colors, such as Deep Amethyst Pearl and Bright Platinum, debuted.

    Later in the year, a sporty TSi model debuted, featuring 16-inch alloy wheels, 225/70R16 tires, leather seating and a premium stereo. The TSi brought the number of Grand Chero-kee models offered back to three: Laredo, TSi and Limited.

    1998 would see the first generation Grand Cherokee go out with a bang. A big bang, as a new 5.9 Limited debuted. The number referred to the engine size in liters, meaning this model housed a powerful 5.9-liter V8 underhood. The big V8 thumped out 245 horse-power and 345 foot-pounds of torque, enough to catapult this SUV from zero to 60 mph in only 7.3 seconds, making it the quickest SUV available that year. Helping out in the performance department was a low restriction exhaust (with a chrome tip) and a 3.73 rear axle ratio. A few other features separated the 5.9 from the standard Limited model: hood louvers, a mesh grille insert and unique five-spoke alloy wheels. The occupants of a 5.9 Limited were treated to even more luxury than the already plush Limited, with softer leather trim and a more powerful (180-watt) stereo."

    It had either the 4.0L I6 or the 5.2L V8, the 5.9L Was only available in 1998.

    Also I forgot to add that in the earlier years there was a "Base" or "SE" Grand Cherokee, and it would come with the CommandTrac 4-Wheel Drive System... These were the ones that were equipped with the 5-Speed Manual Transmissions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shimmy
    There was a 360 grand cherokee in the early 90's too. TSI I believe
    You are incorrect.
    The only 360 ever put in a ZJ was in 1998.
    As for anything with 'quadra' before it...garbage.
    Full time 4wd is something my Aunt Fran would purchase.
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    Current Generation

    Careful evolution marked the revamped 1999 Grand Cherokee. The latest body style is a slightly softened but still handsome version of the previous model. Although the wheelbase remains the same, overall length is up by 4 inches and height increases a few inches, as well, resulting in more cargo and passenger room. And Jeep wisely relocated the spare from the cargo area to under the rear floor, freeing up luggage space.

    A new overhead-cam 4.7-liter V8 with 230 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque (later models got up to 265 ponies and 325 lb-ft from a High Output version of this engine) replaces the old pushrod 5.2-liter V8, and the sturdy 4.0-liter inline six was refined for more power (10 additional horses) and smoother operation. Automatic transmissions are paired with both engines, but the V8's tranny has another gear "between" second and third that improves passing performance at higher speeds. Joining Selec-Trac and Quadra-Trac is Quadra-Drive, which has the ability to send all the power to a single wheel if the other three have no grip.

    The nicely equipped Laredo and luxurious Limited trim levels are still offered, Sport and Special Edition models appeared briefly and currently the top o' the heap is the Overland. The Overland has the 4.7 H.O. V8 as well as a wealth of standard features such as front and side-curtain airbags, an Infinity sound system with 10-disc changer, heated/power front seats, Quadra-Drive, side step rails, power sunroof, wood/ leather steering wheel and 17-inch alloys wheels.
    Now that makes me wonder...
    4.7L HO = 265 HP and 325 ft-lbs
    5.9L = 245 HP and 345 ft-lbs

    Could make for an interesting match between the two...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bgcntry72
    You are incorrect.
    The only 360 ever put in a ZJ was in 1998.
    As for anything with 'quadra' before it...garbage.
    Full time 4wd is something my Aunt Fran would purchase.

    You could only get the 5.9L Limited with Full Time 4WD... Unless it was a down south model where I think there was available 2wd... And I also agreed with you above on the rest of that statement...
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    The SRT8 may be fast, but get one of those POS chrysler trannys to hold up

    I'd take the ML55 AMG. I believe the new one is under 5.0 sec 0-60.
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    Weird enough, I never had a single problem with my Grand Cherokee transmission (5.2L V8 and about 200k on the clock when I sold it) and trust me... It went through the pases...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01v6stangpwr
    Weird enough, I never had a single problem with my Grand Cherokee transmission (5.2L V8 and about 200k on the clock when I sold it) and trust me... It went through the pases...
    The Aisin-Warner AW-4 in the XJs and earlier ZJs is a great tranny, and the Supra version can handle 600 hp or so.
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    d take the 4.7 ho over the 5.9. form what ive seen in the dakotas the regular 4.7s are faster.

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    See I'm an old skool Chrysler motor fan so I'd be all over the 5.9... Plus I like the old body Grand Cherokees more... Plus... 5.9L Supercharged Grand Cherokee =
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    yah i know i'm an old school chrysler guy too. i got the 5.2 in my ram 1500 4x4. i want to do a 408 or a procharger or something but cash is low right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70challenger
    yah i know i'm an old school chrysler guy too. i got the 5.2 in my ram 1500 4x4. i want to do a 408 or a procharger or something but cash is low right now.
    I know that feeling, becasue if it weren't, I'd still have my '95 Grand Cherokee, it would of gotten a 5.9L Swap (had a 5.2) a built trans, transfer case, and s/c... with some axle work... it'd of been a fun Jeep At least that's what I wanted to do, knowing what normally happens I'd of prolly just drove it... Too bad I don't have a money tree...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01v6stangpwr
    I know that feeling, becasue if it weren't, I'd still have my '95 Grand Cherokee, it would of gotten a 5.9L Swap (had a 5.2) a built trans, transfer case, and s/c... with some axle work... it'd of been a fun Jeep At least that's what I wanted to do, knowing what normally happens I'd of prolly just drove it... Too bad I don't have a money tree...
    I don't believe the Grand Cherokee ever came with a 4 cylinder.
    So much for that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bgcntry72
    I don't believe the Grand Cherokee ever came with a 4 cylinder.
    So much for that...

    Ha, ha, funny... The 2.5L 4-Cyl in my Wrangler was bad enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01v6stangpwr
    Ha, ha, funny... The 2.5L 4-Cyl in my Wrangler was bad enough
    Swap it into a 5.9 and spend the balance on Sssttteeeeeedddaaa suspension and have it adapted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bgcntry72
    Swap it into a 5.9 and spend the balance on Sssttteeeeeedddaaa suspension and have it adapted.

    Naw dude, Wranlgers weren't made to handle turns... Those ****ers were made for mud and rocks!!
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    The SRT8 may be fast, but get one of those POS chrysler trannys to hold up
    Care to expound on what it's specific problem is Joe?
    Quote Originally Posted by bgcntry72
    The Aisin-Warner AW-4 in the XJs and earlier ZJs is a great tranny, and the Supra version can handle 600 hp or so.
    The Asin tranny was only in use for 1/2 the year in the Grand Cherokee's, and then only with the 4.0. I've got a 94 with the a-500 chrysler 4 speed. Can't say enough good things about my chrysler tranny...lived a long life prior to it's rebuild at 235,000 miles with plenty of moderate loads towed during that time. It could have kept going for I don't know how long, but I didn't really want to find out (It was starting to shift poorly, that was it). Always kept the fluids fresh, and just as importantly, the correct fluids in the tranny.

    That's probably the biggest issue with the chrysler tranny's imo, is that it's extremely fluid sensitive. The older 3 speeds were far less so (904/998/999 & 727's), but the 4 speeds could fail within days of recieving the wrong fluids (especially the FWD trannies...they could fail literally with only minutes of operation).
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