Entertaining read:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html
(what's up with the f-250 styling though?!?)
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Entertaining read:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html
(what's up with the f-250 styling though?!?)
64K for the ford!!! WHOLY FUCKERBALLS!!! All that torque and power from both and they still runs mid 16s stock?? WTF??? I understand they will each respond well to tuners, but damn one would think alot more performance should be there right out of the box.
It's going to be interesting to see what Chevy and Dodge turn the wicks up to to match the Ford's 735ft-lbs of torque.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAD LS1
Tom, that 64k price tag on the 250 is for a fully loaded King Ranch Supercrew, which is one step above the lariat. you can count on the truck being 20k less in xlt form, which is what the average person who buys the diesel 250 wants..........
God id hate to see what a "king expensive" dually runs!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nutwaver
So it will be 55K for the lesser models and 45k for the blue-collar specials :goof
On another interesting note, that Urea injection, i just found out today that Urea and diesel fuel were some of the main ingredients on the OKC bombing!!! No better wayt o clean sout out of a cat i guess than that! lol
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Originally Posted by BAD LS1
Lol I hear you on both points. Just think of how much a fully loaded King Ranch/HD edition dually runs:goof
ill stick with my 05' or a 06' cummins
I like my duramax. they can all keep their urea injection systems. stupid diesel emissions.
Tom you have to remember these are easily 7500 lbs trucks. There is a lot of weight to move.
The prrices on new diesels is ludicrous...thats probably why used diesels keep increasing in value.
I really dont have much hope for this new ford ...but only time will tell.
Chevy's answer for 2011 will be 397/765. Makes my 365/660 seem wimpy... :goofQuote:
Originally Posted by Prince Valiant
I remember being amazed by trucks putting out 450-500 ft-lbs of torque, lol. Hard to recall the old 6.2 chevy diesel with something like 250 ft-lbs of torque...or even the 6.5 TD with a whopping 360ish :woooQuote:
Originally Posted by DirtyMax
You can now do pricing on them for basic build
Pick motor, 4x4 or 4x2, axle, cab style, and box length.
http://bp2.forddirect.fordvehicles.c...y#page=/Style/
Cheapest looks to be about $36k
Id still go with the Cummins, because you know you can get well over 250,000 miles out of one, it just depends on how the Dodge body and parts stay together. The highest milage Cummins ive seen was a 2004.5 with 564,000 miles on it and it was mint.
Million mile Dodge Ram Cummins :thumbsupQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum Crazy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srn_f...layer_embedded
all stock crew cab long bed, 15.9 with no launch and shitty 60 ft times but rudy avg'd low 16s all day
got a link to anything with the new duramax in it?Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyMax
Some stuff in and around this website...Quote:
Originally Posted by Anakonda69
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/03...v8-diesel.html
lmao @ the Ram, straggling behind by HUUUUGGGEEE numbers on payload and tow capacity. Along with the 6.7 being fairly weak compared to the other two stock.
What, do you think it's not a matter of simply turning up the wick? Like the 5.9 in your truck basically started at a measely 400ft-lbs of torque, yet toward the end was at 550-600ft-lbs...and lord knows capable of much more.Quote:
Originally Posted by T-Bag
And despite the disadvantage, it appears per the actual test numbers, that cummins that was "fairly weak" still performed similarly to the Ford.
you completely missed my point. I'm not talking modified or turning up the wick...im talking NOW stock for stock. The tow ratings are not even close. Sure the test pulling a 6,000 lbs trailer is going to be pretty damn similar between all trucks because its well within their tow rating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince Valiant
Also Dodge has always had the shittiest payload capacities and tow capacities compared to their counterparts.
Obviously I'd take the Cummins Dodge over the other two.
What does dodge gas have anything to do with this? Even that's a fairly unsupportable claim, lol.
That was meant to be a HAS not GAS :rolfQuote:
Originally Posted by Prince Valiant
Well, even then, comparable models are fairly comparable. The ford has a 1,000lb advantage over the dodge towing, but that's not all that much when we're talking 17,600 for one, 18,600 for the other (comparable 1 ton's, not throwing out the 450/550 numbers like ford likes to do) and ~500lbs for payload 5200 vs 5700 payload...these aren't huge differences that make one "shitty' vs another.Quote:
Originally Posted by T-Bag
Lord knows that though ford rates their 1/2 tons top, they aren't really what you want to be towing 11,000lbs with, lol...though their new 6.2 should rectify much of that.