2012 Camaro.... ZL1. The supercar nameplate returns!
I know alot of people on this board are not fans of the 5th gen camaro, and oh well if your not.
But the "official" public release of the new "performance Camaro" took place today so i though id Share.
While im not sure what this car will turn out to be like, its rumored to be competitive in everything it does, as close to the vette as it ever has been.
Its a full year away yet, and it will have the caddy CTS-V's 556 hp LSA engine. Which those tanks run 10's with less than a grand stuck into them, this "should" be even better.
I love the rest of the car...but the interior is still a little too retro for my taste. It'll likely use better material but the the overall form of the interior remains the same.
Not that if I was a GM guy I'd like it keep me out of one...especially one with that kind of power, lol.
02-09-2011, 12:42 PM
jbiscuit
Looks badass. I was just thinking the other day they should put the CTS-V motor in a Camaro! What is the sticker $$??
02-09-2011, 12:54 PM
CATNHAT
GM put that engine in a damn station wagon! If any car in the GM line up could use that engine, it is the Camaro!
That is one bad ass grocery getter!
02-09-2011, 01:04 PM
PonyKiller87
Awesome, this just made my week. I've been waiting for this since the rumors of the Z28 started. Wonder why they decided to go with the ZL1 name instead of the traditional Z28 ? Either way I signed up for updates, and I will be calling the Holz to see when they are starting a waiting list to order.
02-09-2011, 01:05 PM
nismodave
The Magnetic Ride is going to be the difference maker.
02-09-2011, 01:07 PM
Bobby "Big Daddy" Flay
What differences will the Z28 model have from the ZL1?
02-09-2011, 01:15 PM
BAD LS1
This replaces the Z28 naming convention. The Z was always the "entry level" or sleeper type of Camaro anyway, the ZL1 has been regarded as the king of Camaro's since 69 with its all aluminum 427. So much like the ZR1 being the pinnacle of Corvette performance in the early 90's and again now, this car and naming convention fall right in line with that idea.
I suspect these cars will be about 50K. No worse than a GT500 price wise and a little less than what you would pay for a 2LT vette coupe.
02-09-2011, 01:21 PM
PonyKiller87
So you think theres any chance of a Z28 that has a the go fast of a ZL1 with out some of the high end stuff to keep the price down. Kind of like a base model with the LSA in it? Would be awesome to have something like that in the $35-40k range.
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Originally Posted by BAD LS1
This replaces the Z28 naming convention. The Z was always the "entry level" or sleeper type of Camaro anyway, the ZL1 has been regarded as the king of Camaro's since 69 with its all aluminum 427. So much like the ZR1 being the pinnacle of Corvette performance in the early 90's and again now, this car and naming convention fall right in line with that idea.
I suspect these cars will be about 50K. No worse than a GT500 price wise and a little less than what you would pay for a 2LT vette coupe.
02-09-2011, 01:27 PM
WhatsADSM
Very cool I know there have been talks of putting the LSA into the camaro for a while now, but sounds like it is official that it will come to fruition. :)
P.S. I fricken LOVE that CTS-V wagon. Probably the coolest daily driver ever, I would rock the shit out of one of those if it wasn't outside of the budget.
02-09-2011, 01:32 PM
BAD LS1
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Originally Posted by PonyKiller87
So you think theres any chance of a Z28 that has a the go fast of a ZL1 with out some of the high end stuff to keep the price down. Kind of like a base model with the LSA in it? Would be awesome to have something like that in the $35-40k range.
No the Z28 was going to be this car. The SS is really what you are describing short the LSA mill. A 2SS level car is already in that price range!
This shit sounds expensive, and it is, but the rest of the competitors are right there in the same pricing structure too!
02-09-2011, 01:35 PM
PonyKiller87
Oh well, I want one anyways, I'll find the money. LOL
Any one want to buy a 87 Iroc? It will most likely be going up for sale this summer.
02-09-2011, 02:22 PM
GTSLOW
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Originally Posted by PonyKiller87
Oh well, I want one anyways, I'll find the money. LOL
Any one want to buy a 87 Iroc? It will most likely be going up for sale this summer.
Charge interest on the BCM scammer? :goof
02-09-2011, 02:53 PM
JC70SS
damn it, now I may end up with one of these.....rally green maybe?
I need pricing details.
02-09-2011, 03:09 PM
jbiscuit
WHHHAAAAT. You better not even think about selling that Chevelle JOE!
02-09-2011, 03:11 PM
FoxStang
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Originally Posted by BAD LS1
Best of all this sigifies a new interior as well!
Until you can see out of the back of these things, the "interior" isn't fixed.
The exterior I'm gonna have to wait til I see it next week, looks more aggressive than the regular one though. Definitely Excited for the motor though.
And the ZL1 naming is kind of weird because weren't the originals COPO cars that were really low production, vs this, relatively large production?
02-09-2011, 03:50 PM
PonyKiller87
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Originally Posted by GTSLOW
Charge interest on the BCM scammer? :goof
He's supposed to be paying me the rest of it next week when he gets his tax return. But thats no where near what I'm going to need to buy a 50k car, lol.
02-09-2011, 04:16 PM
BAD LS1
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Originally Posted by FoxStang
Until you can see out of the back of these things, the "interior" isn't fixed.
The exterior I'm gonna have to wait til I see it next week, looks more aggressive than the regular one though. Definitely Excited for the motor though.
And the ZL1 naming is kind of weird because weren't the originals COPO cars that were really low production, vs this, relatively large production?
Well they cut the top off to help the visibility now! The verts with the top down look a ton better than the coupes.
Joe i am having throughts too, no clue how i will swing the price tag though!
02-09-2011, 05:01 PM
GHOSST
:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:
Awesome.... finally some real competition for the GT500, I mean, these YouTube videos of 10 SS Vs. 10 GT500 are ridiculous. This should raise the bar, :thumbsup. SWEET!!
That chopped Camaro looks like crap!!! Terrible...
02-09-2011, 10:00 PM
jbiscuit
What's wrong with a barge?
02-10-2011, 01:38 AM
Z28Envy
I see it's at the chicago autoshow. I might head down on Saturday for something to do. Here's a little write up on it of some of the features it's suppose to come with.
I see it's at the chicago autoshow. I might head down on Saturday for something to do. Here's a little write up on it of some of the features it's suppose to come with.
Plum that was pretty original. This is for your mopar:gay
02-10-2011, 02:09 PM
Plum Crazy
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Originally Posted by JC70SS
Plum that was pretty fucking original. This is for your mopar:gay
Take it easy! :goof
02-10-2011, 04:01 PM
lilws6
mmmm i want a ZL1 car that would be sexy
02-10-2011, 04:19 PM
JC70SS
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Originally Posted by Plum Crazy
Take it easy! :goof
just giving ya some shiaat...cabin fever has me in an uproar!
02-10-2011, 05:30 PM
Plum Crazy
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Originally Posted by JC70SS
just giving ya some shiaat...cabin fever has me in an uproar!
Its alright.:rolf
Just dishing out the shit talkin'. I got plenty of it when i bought my car. I drove a Camaro before i bought my Challenger. Even though its not as fast and is heavier, it fits my 6'5 275lb fat ass better than the Camaro did, plus my Dealer and Chrysler employee discount didnt hurt either.:D
02-11-2011, 07:07 PM
FoxStang
Z28 still coming, probably gonna try to go against the boss.
This is what I would do,
SS's 6.2's. (forgot the damn RPOż)
Z28's LS7
ZL1, LSA
This makes me want to do a motor swap!
02-19-2011, 08:48 AM
GinoRin
as someone who is in the market for the new CTS-V sedan (daily driver) within the next 12-16 months, I am super excited for the ZL-1. There will be even more performance goodies available and the prices will be coming down even more I'm sure with the additional production volume for common LSA aftermarket items. I hope they bring out a convertible ZL-1 (wishful thinking I know) because that will likely be in the stall next to my GN and (hopefully) CTS-V. GM is really bringin' the heat, the next few years are going to be very exciting for GM performance.
02-21-2011, 07:39 AM
JMG853
Sharp car - Saw it at the Chicago Auto Show. I think it was also the pace car at Daytona as well.
The weight of this car is the issue... Gas mileage will be bad, as it is in CTS-V's. But, who buys this car for the gas mileage... :)
02-23-2011, 12:08 PM
94greenbandit
Anybody know if this is coming to the Milwaukee show
02-23-2011, 02:22 PM
PonyKiller87
I tried asking the online chat person at the chevy website but as usual it was no help.
