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Crawlin
10-08-2008, 02:26 PM
PLEASE KEEP ALL DISCUSSION IN DEDICATED THREAD
Everyone on here pretty much knows me. Maybe not so much on a personal level, but more on a sticking with a decision level. Some may have seen my old F-bodies. Normally, I would have liked to just keep a secret and come out next year. Well, this thing isn't gonna be blazing fast to keep up with the Ford boys, so fuck it. There are two reasons for this post
1.) I wanted to show off the new toy
2.) More importantly I wanted to show what you can do with good friends, some ingenuity, and a LOOOOOOOOW budget. And hopefully if the rules are broad enough, gets you to come out to participate in this class/event.
Most of you have seen the posts in the GLD section about the new heads up class to run with True Street Drag Racing Association. GLD and it's staff have been a great track to us as racers, and as a website. Scotty and Becky do tremendous job running those events. I've talked with Scotty and others at length about this class. It's gone from trying to be specific, to very wide open to gather as many cars as possible. I think it is going to be a GREAT entry level class for those that don't want to break the bank. $100 membership, $50 to race. A payout of $25 just for qualifying? If you qualify, that makes it cheaper to race than if it was just a normal test and tune night, and ESPECIALLY cheaper than an RSD event.
I had been looking for a car for a long time. Most of you guys have seen the posts in chat and my constant rambling. Well I got beat to the punch on a car I would have really liked, and would have been more of an old classic. Pissed me off so much that I found this new car within minutes and started watching the auction on ebay. It got down to the final minute and I just said fuck it, and bid and got it. It was right over in Clinton, WI. BIG thanks to Mikey(MuddRunner) for borrowing the dolly and for waking up early as hell to go pull it back the other weekend.
I've had a ton of valuable input by ALOT of good friends and people that are around. I'll be the first to admit that I know WAAAAY less than even half of what there is to know about racing consistantly in a heads up class, and maintaining the vehicle to do so. This class is a great spring board to that education.
Plans -
Carb'd engine (looking at $ wise now on buildups to figure out LT1/LS1/SBC/BBC)
TH400 or Glide for consistency
12 bolt or Dana
Following some advice from friends, it looks like a new Dana setup would actually come out cheaper than a 9", as well as come with the 35spline setup.
Particulars right now will be hard to specify as it's mostly going to be a buy things as they come around and if they fit the rules/etc....
Final Rules are supposed to be posted by Nov. 3rd, so it alteast gives me a month to work through things and wait before deciding down a path.
Other stuff seems to be simple to attain. Suspension pieces, K-members, shocks/springs, wheels/tires, etc... are all widely available on all the sites for these cars.
Crawlin
11-26-2008, 03:40 PM
Well, just a tiny little update since it's more of a planning stage at this point. Wanted to make sure I knew exactly what the forward goal was so I wasn't wasting money, and then doing research to make sure it fit the parameters.
So here will be the powerplant.
6.0L truck long block - $400 w/ coils to manifolds to pan
We just stripped it down to inspect. Everything looked good. Not bad for a 100k mile engine, haha. With how cheap you can find some of these truck longblocks, especially in the 5.3L variety, decision was made to just toss it back together with some new gaskets and maybe some ARP head bolts at the most. Save $100 over the studs and we aren't going to be pushing this thing with the stock pistons. Manifolds I can sell for about 65-75 to guys who are wanting to do turbo setups in their f-bodys.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/LSx/60L2.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/LSx/60L1.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/LSx/60L3.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/LSx/60L4.jpg
More pics tonight. These were from earlier this week. It is completely stripped down now that I got the balancer off. Got all the covers off. Going to take it to be hot tanked to clean it up a bit and then just get the hone going on the drill. Ron already used the light stones to see if it'd clean up and it looks fine. Just stuffing the stock stuff back in there. Found a new in box set of arp rod bolts for the stock cracked rods so just gonna toss those in. Since the crank is out, and it seems as if most machine shops are slow as hell right now, might take it in to polish up. Can't be more than $50 for that? Who knows....
Crawlin
11-26-2008, 11:51 PM
Some more pics since I forgot to take them the other night.
Want to thank big Mike from Fast Times for showing me a couple key things to take care of and to look into doing so we can keep this thing living with the cheap stuff in there. All the main/rod bearings looked great. Cam bearings were wore down a bit, but from what Mike said, his didn't look any better so I'm not too worried about that. Will be getting new ones though since they are only like $30.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/LSx/60L6.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/LSx/60L7.jpg
Just cleaned it up roughly with the hone real quick. We'll see if it's workable without having to overbore it. Don't want to buy new pistons since I have all intentions of this blowing up, haha. It looks pretty bad in the photo, but I think it's just the lighting. It's still a smooth bore, haha.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/LSx/60L8.jpg
Stock Piston:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/LSx/60L9.jpg
Stock Rod:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/LSx/60L10.jpg
Stock head after disassembly to take inventory of what's needed:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/LSx/60L11.jpg
Little metal shavings are just cleaning up a lip that's right there on both intake/exhaust bowls.
And many have been consumed
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/LSx/beer.jpg
Overall plans at this point are to get the block hot tanked and get the heads cleaned up as well. I will be getting the heads and the deck surfaced to make sure everything is flat. Then work out the bearing issue and maybe some new piston rings? Who knows, it's just a junk setup and stock stuff looks fine.
Crawlin
01-23-2009, 04:47 PM
New toys for it!!! YAY!!! Kinda at a stand still with this weather. I hate working out in the cold, but at some point I gotta realize we have less than 90 days left to finish it and get it out testing to make sure I could even hit 11.00, hahaha
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Fuel%20System%20and%20Cell/DSC00296.jpg
New fuel pressure regulator:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Fuel%20System%20and%20Cell/DSC00298.jpg
Top view of carb:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Fuel%20System%20and%20Cell/DSC00297.jpg
I really have no ******* clue what to do with this thing though, hahahaha
What the hell is a jet? Nitrous jets I got a ton of them!
Crawlin
02-19-2009, 10:26 AM
So since some people wanted an update, I figured I'd post up some progress pictures. Back in early late September, talking with a couple people it was decided that maybe it would be better to start off with something that was a little bit easier to work on. And someone just so happened to have it sitting in their yard, haha. With what the plans were, and to be racing it consistantly(hopefully), I didn't want to be crawling under the cowl to fix anything. I've always wanted one of these since it's what I remember being carted around to elementary school in when I was going up. This was close enough, and the "dirtiness" and the color just make it that much better since it really is just all junk crap being tossed at it. Some might recognize it since Ron had it for sale.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/First%20Pics/6503898491_ORIG.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/First%20Pics/6503898569_ORIG.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/First%20Pics/6503898661_ORIG.jpg
Crawlin
02-19-2009, 10:29 AM
So into the garage it went.... getting stripped down in the engine compartment as well as the interior for Ron to do the cage.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00165.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00170.jpg
Dirty as hell....
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00172.jpg
This is how you get engine mounts off!!! Burn the shit, haha.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00176.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00183.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00182.jpg
Getting the heater core and A/C box out...
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00181.jpg
Old gas tank area...
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00185.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00180.jpg
Crawlin
02-19-2009, 10:31 AM
Then time to start stripping the interior... Suprisingly the floors were pretty damn solid.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00188.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00189.jpg
Cutting holes for the cage
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00187.jpg
But of course, I had to pick this up only because I always thought a wagon with a cowl hood would be awesome, haha.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00216.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00234.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00233.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/malibuhood1.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/malibuhood2.jpg
Crawlin
02-19-2009, 10:38 AM
The fun toy...
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00238.jpg
First shot at a hoop, and it worked great... But Ron wanted to get it a bit tighter.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00190.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00191.jpg
And then the second main hoop, and he definitely achieved that goal.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00239.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00196.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00198.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00198.jpg
Then some more of the rear down bars. Best part about the down bars, is that cutting that first main hoop in half, made perfect rear bars, hahaha. No tubing was wasted in the making of this cage.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00235.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00236.jpg
Crawlin
02-19-2009, 10:41 AM
Now getting the the front halo since he was setting it up for the 10pt.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/7.jpg
And the front down bars
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00243.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00249.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00248.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00252.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00263.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00264.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00266.jpg
Not quite fully welded in, but set up nicely...
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00270.jpg
Crawlin
02-19-2009, 10:45 AM
Another HUUUUUGE thanks to Jim Plimpton for doing the paint match on the cage. Yes, this IS the color I wanted it, hahaha. It was hard to match the paint to the shitty, faded, crappy plastic interior panels, but he did his best and it's awesome!
Since it is such a crappy car, Ron and I didn't really take the time to mask everything off well. Obviously when looking at the pics of Mark's Malibu you can see great care was taken on that one and I would say the paint on the bar is 100x's better than the paint on the actual CAR, ahha.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00291.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Cage/DSC00292.jpg
Crawlin
02-19-2009, 10:50 AM
Now on to the engine mock up. We are still doing the LS1 stuff since it's what I know and it's what I had available like the previous photos show.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00204.jpg
Just getting it sat in there and mocked up for the motor plate and mid plate
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00205.jpg
It's ALL the way back up against the firewall, hahaha. Only a smidge of room
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00206.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00207.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00208.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00209.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00210.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00211.jpg
Starting the midplate
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00221.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00222.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00223.jpg
Stock truck pan clearance
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00224.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00225.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00228.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Engine%20Mock%20Up/DSC00229.jpg
Crawlin
02-19-2009, 10:56 AM
I've always loved the artistic signatures some people have of their cars. So I had a guy make some up for mine. Had him do it two ways. One with a set of Pro Stars, and one with some stock Rally's since that is what will really be going on the car. Came out awesome. This is the overall indication of what I want the car to look like.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Rendering/minnich_render_rally_wheels_signatu.jpg
Then the Pro Star one
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Rendering/minnich_render_star_wheels_signa-1.jpg
Then of course had to get this one in. Without Ron, Jim P, Little J, Big J, Jim R, etc... I just wouldn't have the knowledge or the talent or time to complete it myself. They are great friends. I'm a FAR way from being finished and I haven't touched it in awhile due to being a little busy with work and not having a heated garage(I get spoiled at Ron's, haha).
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Rendering/minnich_render_rally_wheels_800.jpg
Crawlin
02-19-2009, 11:06 AM
Funniest thing in the world...
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Fuel%20System%20and%20Cell/DSC00230.jpg
Now you see it...
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Fuel%20System%20and%20Cell/DSC00231.jpg
Now you don't....
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Fuel%20System%20and%20Cell/DSC00232.jpg
Perfect fit, haha. Well had to trim a LITTLE bit
Crawlin
02-19-2009, 11:22 AM
now for the fun stuff....
A HUGE thanks to Ron's cousin (little J) for making up the flanges
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Turbo%20Setup/DSC00240.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Turbo%20Setup/DSC00260.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Turbo%20Setup/DSC00242.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Turbo%20Setup/DSC00294.jpg
I do need to pick up another set of manifolds as one of them is actually cracked. Just have to run up by bad cutt to get them!
This is just some mock up stuff just to see if it'd fit and what bends would be needed and how many.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Turbo%20Setup/turbo2.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Turbo%20Setup/turbo1.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Turbo%20Setup/DSC00261.jpg
Always wanted it like this, but don't know if it's actually going to end up there. Only because of space constraints as well as cooling since it'll be a "street" car.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/Turbo%20Setup/DSC00262.jpg
Crawlin
02-22-2009, 10:30 PM
Just as an update... Got more parts!!! Thanks Mike and John over at Fast Times for getting the GM parts!!!
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00301.jpg
ARP stuff is race car stuff!!! That or it's $20 vs. the stock GM TTY crank bolt being $16, hahah
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00300.jpg
Stock GM headgaskets! The only way to fly!
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/z28kid98/Malibu/DSC00299.jpg
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